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Fast food workers want $15/hr (pg. 10)
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| Silky Johnson |
Thank you for reminding me how wonderful it is not to read srussell's posts.
Anyhow, the best solution is not to increase wages, but rather to genetically engineer humans to fit into specific castes, like in Brave New World. You'd never hear a peep out of fast food workers then! |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
I thought flirting. If not, I guess I'll put my dick away, unless you're interested. |
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| Lagrangian |
These are jobs for high school students scratch that ... illegal immigrants .
Roll out the RED carpet |
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| Serial Killer |
worked Part Time in McDs and BK while i was in HIGH SCHOOL
was making min wage and took me 18 months to save up to buy a 1989 Chevy Beretta.... that was a sweet ride....
the oldest person working there was the manager who was over 45. everyone else was my age... it should not be turned into a career unless you go corporate.
people who are over 18, no kids, no frug habits, no parole/record, with no disabilities, should not work in those places.
If you don't fit the criteria (except the disability one), no pickles please.
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jon_Snow
lol
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Do we need a "Girls eating fast food" thread? :p |
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| Jon_Snow |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
Do we need a "Girls eating fast food" thread? :p |
There is a fine line between need and want. ;)
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Serial Killer
people who are over 18, no kids, no frug habits, no parole/record, with no disabilities, should not work in those places.
If you don't fit the criteria (except the disability one), no pickles please.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Anyhow, the best solution is not to increase wages, but rather to genetically engineer humans to fit into specific castes, like in Brave New World. You'd never hear a peep out of fast food workers then! |
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| itsamemario |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
What's next, Stephen, will you be sending me more private messages with sad stories, looking for an apology and acceptance? I know I'm not the only one you've done that to.
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| srussell0018 |
| You don't even work and live on welfare, I think you should probably just stay out of this thread. |
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| Psyshell |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
And? Work in the private sector in a job that matters and you'll be paid like it. That's pretty much the bottom line. Any fast food jockey thinking they deserve 15/hr is just a greedy moron. I don't even have any education related to the job I do, but since it's something that actually matters, I'm compensated to reflect that. |
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You act as if the money they're not earning isn't going to anyone else either. It's not a matter of "this contractor doesn't deserve to be paid x amount per hour cos their job is easy". It is instead a matter of the fact that companies that employ fast food workers make huge profits and staffing is a very low percentage of their costs while their employees are quite often not able to feed themselves properly.
Just because you're in a better position to assert your true value on the market doesn't mean that the people in those kinds of jobs are somehow worth a lot less.
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
It's pretty mind-blowing to a lot of us, too. I'm certainly no commie, but we really need to take better care of our poor. Massive inequality never ends well, for anybody.
Besides that, this country would be much better off if the poor had more spending money. Trying to leech out as much money as possible is nice for the 1%'s bank accounts, but it's not good for the overall economy. If the poor and middle class had more money, they could spend more, increasing demand, which would require more supply, thereby giving them more jobs. Econ101 right there. |
Money in the hands of the poor and middle class is spent on more goods and services than in the hands of the rich who tend to spend more on investments. This means more demand and therefore more jobs and a more stable economy generally.
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
I know you can say "Oh, if they don't want to work a ty job, then go to university and better yourself" but the price of university education in the US is ridiculous. |
There's other things than uni, like trades but that's not really the point. Ofcourse fast food workers will probably/should be earning less than people in more skilled careers; but when the corporations that are hiring them are getting such a gigantic share from their labour then it's unfair on that point alone and also especially unfair when they can't even live a very modest lifestyle without the constant threat of poverty.
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
ITT: a bunch of bleeding heart cry baby liberals.
What I'd like to know, is when we raise the minimum wage to a level that Americans can live on at this level of inflation (probably around 12/hr), what you plan on doing for the entry level office desktop tech who's making $13/hr, and then when you raise their wage, what you plan to tell the CCNA who's making 20-25 an hour? Raising minimum wage by a dollar isn't going to change anything. Clearly, these people want something they do not deserve. Someone who stands in front of a register and asks people of they want fries does not deserve $120 a day for doing so. |
I think the sortof thing you're complaining about is perhaps an example of what's unfair about negotiating minumum wages by sector (I think they do that in Germany, I know they certainly used to do that here, but regardless I'm not too knowledgeable on that). In that presumably that'd make wages for a large sector of the economy a lot higher and bump up inflation without compensating the other sectors and generally distorting things for a short while. I do however think that bumping up the mimumum wage isn't nearly as bad as since real demand will increase that caueses more money to flow around the economy in both real terms and inflationary terms (which would overall still be gradual and minor).
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
That is actually one argument often advanced *for* the minimum wage: that it creates upward pressure on employers who currently pay slightly more than the minimum, thus ultimately lifting the incomes of far more people than the ones who are touched immediately by the legislation. |
Exactly. Other jobs will still be better. Firstly because there's more money (in real terms as well) flowing around and secondly because employers will want those jobs to still be preferred because of the better pay.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Who the are you to say who deserves what? |
I know right. Sense of entitlement much?
Perhaps ssrussel should just say "I don't want the poor to earn too much money because then I won't look as wealthy in comparison" :rolleyes: At least it'd be clearer and more concise.
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
Anyhow, the best solution is not to increase wages, but rather to genetically engineer humans to fit into specific castes, like in Brave New World. You'd never hear a peep out of fast food workers then! |
The Indians won't be against genetic engineering after they hear that idea that's for sure. :haha: |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
It's not "completely" irrelevant when the only argument being put forth (and not coincidentally, the only argument I was responding too) is about raising a family and/or starving children. I understand the bigger picture being discussed here, but too often these topics devolve into "think of the children!!!" and it's much, much too easy to point out that those poor children probably shouldn't even exist in the first place... In an ideal situation anyway. |
What's ideal? Only top earners should be allowed to reproduce?
Contraception works to a point- until it's culturally discouraged, preventative healthcare is refused or obfuscated to women, or outright denied by the god-slobbering heads on the religious right. |
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