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U.S & obesity (pg. 13)
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay
You are born.
Your parents are nutritionally clueless/don't care. Maybe you creepy IGK uncle diddles your bits.
Chances are, after such an unpringing, you will repeat the mess. Not always, but I'm sure more than not.
Laziness isn't the problem, so much as education (i say this as a drinker and smoker too, so the hypocrisy is rampant).
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This is actually the part I really sympathize with. When you see a family, two huge parents and a couple of tubby-getting-tubbier kids all sitting in McDonalds or taco Bell. The people give to their kids and think is OK, that's the sad part.
The only thing is, as jenny pointed out, no one lives in isolation; the moment you go to school, you mix with other people you could see there a difference between you and say the less gigantic kids (and in fairness tons of kids are chubbers so you might not have relative awareness that you're a barrel of a child).
However, by the time you're a young adult, you ing know that being overweight is bad for, will kill you and diet and exercise are what you need to fix it.
At that point, yes it may still be a matter of education but I bet that manwhale has figured out how to play xbox, I'm sure they can search for exercises or diet advice on youtube. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Lets take your example. If I combine the population of blackburn and newcastle you're not even at 400,000 so to compare this to London at 8m+ (or 14m by weekday) you're using a place with less than 5% of the population of the other to make a comparison. I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense |
That's because you're choosing to take it literally rather than grasping the rather obvious point that I mentioned Blackburn and Newcastle as metonyms for colloquial England in general, which actually does outnumber London by some degree and where the lifestyle is notably different.
You might tell me that you don't agree about the distribution, but the arguments you've made in this thread don't correlate with that. Your own examples show how socio-economics and geography create contrasts between communities and areas with little to no obesity, and others with extremely high levels of obesity.
| quote: | | I think one thing that that's keeps getting conflated is that you seem to think it's cultural thing, like personal character differences between say Geordies and Londoners, when in the USA it's really a an American thing regardless of if you're cracker redneck from West Virginia or a fat black guy in Oakland. |
No, actually. My early posts in this thread with Jay talked about US "culinary culture" as a totality. As a Brit who's visited the US more than once I have felt that marked contrast in the quality of even everyday staple food. I'd agree with you that it is harder in the US to eat healthily even compared to the UK, that things you should be able to take for granted (such as bread, to reiterate my own example) are just unhealthy by default. I can hold that position and still have sympathy for Lews' plea for perspective, because there are 100,000,000 Americans with no weight problems and so it's important for a foreigner not to get caught up in the idea that every American is fat and every American product or restaurant is unhealthy. You've blown up this whole issue into way more than it needs to be. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
You're also so smart you probably think most public service money is well spent or even acquired and distributed proportionally for that matter. |
No I don't, but I also don't see how that has the slightest relevance to this discussion. You've still yet to express a single sentence of argument beyond "WOW LMAO you're so smart". A weak little mind hiding behind a pitiful veil of sarcasm. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No I don't, but I also don't see how that has the slightest relevance to this discussion. You've still yet to express a single sentence of argument beyond "WOW LMAO you're so smart". A weak little mind hiding behind a pitiful veil of sarcasm. |
Wtf are you talking about? All i said is "taxes are taxes". Those taxes that you just agreed that spent disproportionately could go to your NHS, and there you go bigger budget, you ing knob, as you brits would say. |
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| Vector A |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chimney
Technically true. What's the price of a Big Mac menu over there? |
A Big Mac on its own is around $4.00, I think. It has 530 calories, so four in a day would give you 2120 calories, under a young man's requirement but slightly over a young woman's.
Adding on fries and soda with each one would quickly get you over your requirements. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
Those taxes that you just agreed that spent disproportionately could go to your NHS, and there you go bigger budget |
And then they don't get spent on other vital services, making the country a worse place to live. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And then they don't get spent on other vital services, making the country a worse place to live. |
Which is it, is the money spent well and fairly or no? how is every other public service "vital"? are you retarded? |
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| Vector A |
| I think his point, badly expressed due to his limited facility with English, was that there is lots of government waste and so the government could take care of additional fatties with funds that are currently allocated badly. Interesting question, perhaps, whether it would be easier to address government graft than to get people to slim down. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vector A
I think his point, badly expressed due to his limited facility with English |
off, it's so ing clear. You'd have to be retarded to not understand what i'm saying. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
off, it's so ing clear. You'd have to be retarded to not understand what i'm saying. |
You'd have to be ing retarded to think any healthy person would be happy to let public spending be drained on a completely avoidable health crisis just because some imbecile on TranceAddict.com says "who are we to judge fat people?" without any vestige of justification. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You'd have to be ing retarded to think any healthy person would be happy to let public spending be drained on a completely avoidable health crisis just because some imbecile on TranceAddict.com says "who are we to judge fat people?" without any vestige of justification. |
are you happy about paying for corporate subsidies you ing hypocrite?
I don't owe you a justification, i think the imbecile is you and your humongous ego. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
are you happy about paying for corporate subsidies you ing hypocrite? |
Where did I say anything about being happy about corporate subsidies? How am I a "ing hypocrite" if you do not have the slightest clue what my position on this issue is? And just like government wastage, it's a completely separate issue. Even if every single penny of taxpayer money was spent perfectly efficiently and on the right things, there is still no moral, social or economic argument to justify the government and society collectively ignoring a massive health crisis and doing nothing to combat it.
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
I don't owe you a justification |
That's just as well, as it's exceedingly obvious you don't have one. |
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