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For Those Ripped Off By 'stacey-l' Please Read Immediately - Re: Fraud On Board (pg. 12)
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| lyte |
| I think that it is possible for people to be forgiven. Except in your case you hid like a lion in the tumbleweed and pounced onto the gazels. A lion's heart does not change; only his mane. |
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| Jocker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
You really are an idiot. Go check when he signed up for TA. There are many TAs who know him, even MODs, and will confirm he is not "another alias of mine" |
the idiot one here is you... i mean, how stupid do you have to be to use your real ip address in things like that?
that is beyond the point of discussion, however. i was not implying that somebody was using somebody else's account, etc. i was just amuzed with hadi ******'s belief in the "check the ip address" deal. |
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| Jocker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
Believe me, I could have easily just left the board and ran with the money. I didnt have to return the money to the victims. |
or maybe, when the hit the fan, you realized that it's gone too far. you could either leave your room and go ramble around the country with the FBI looking for you and creating a whole new mess for yourself, and you would definitely go to jail when caught, or you could try to buy your way out.
btw, i especially like the "Believe me" part in your post. kinda quixotic. |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
lol seriously get over this FBI is looking for me bull. Do you really think that I am a priority to the FBI when there are way bigger fish to fry? Hell do you think my victims even contacted the FBI? What do you think they said "Hello Agent Smith, there is this dude who tried to scam me out of money, but then he returned it to me and his other victims. Yeah just wanted to let you know so you could make him a priority over the millions of other cases of unresolved fraud where the perpetrator vanished with the money."
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With a name like Shehryar Qamar..... lets just say that the case was given priority [hint].
The case is invesigated by the FBI and your local police department. The FBI is only helping with the investigation. Well thats more than you need to know.
I HIGHLY SUGGEST ALL THOSE SCAMMED FOLLOW SUIT! |
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| Jocker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
I am done rebutting. |
you may be done, but the people you scammed are not necessarily...
if you rob a house and then return all the goods, you still are a thief and may be pursued.
if the persons you tricked are stupid and naive enough to let you go this time (which i certainly wouldn't, were i in their shoes), you can consider yourself very lucky and applaud to yourself that your ex-girlfriend-slash-maniacal-depression bull worked as it was supposed to.
by the way, in case of things such as theft and other crimes, negative reinforcement works much better than positive, which can actually make things worse giving you an idea of invulnerability.
good luck to you in this life, whether you decide to continue scamming or not, and somewhere deep down i really admire the artistism with wich you put bull in the victims' heads... |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jocker
you may be done, but the people you scammed are not necessarily...
if you rob a house and then return all the goods, you still are a thief and may be pursued.
if the persons you tricked are stupid and naive enough to let you go this time (which i certainly wouldn't, were i in their shoes), you can consider yourself very lucky and applaud to yourself that your ex-girlfriend-slash-maniacal-depression bull worked as it was supposed to.
by the way, in case of things such as theft and other crimes, negative reinforcement works much better than positive, which can actually make things worse giving you an idea of invulnerability.
good luck to you in this life, whether you decide to continue scamming or not, and somewhere deep down i really admire the artistism with wich you put bull in the victims' heads... |
So True!!
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And how about when he says quote " read naive posts about having some alterior motive, it just makes me want to say " it, I might as well just keep doing it if people are going to label me as a con for the rest of my life."
BULL!!
He only started to tell the truth when he got caught. He thought well if I give them back their money than I should face no criminal charges...wrong!! Thats like if I stole a car...than later someone sees me in the car..and before they call the police I go return the car .. BULL...I am still a criminal and I still can get arrested.
I can not beleive people can not see through his con artist talk!!
And you actions of forgiveness and repent should have been for reasons of guilt not what we say. Obvisously, he doesnt see or feel the guilt in his actions.He was just concerned if he would get caught.
He is scared because he know that the police are involved and he will soon face his destiny .
I am sorry to tell you but in America today if you have a name like Shehryar Qamar your case is seen as a much higher priority in the goverments eyes.
Why do I care? Becuase my father is a Criminal Prosecutor for the United States Goverment. |
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| SugarShack |
| quote: | Originally posted by davepiazza
With a name like Shehryar Qamar..... lets just say that the case was given priority [hint].
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Thats pretty ed up there no need to be racist you ****:whip: :whip: |
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| davepiazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by SugarShack
Thats pretty ed up there no need to be racist you ****:whip: :whip: |
He asked why someone like himself would get investigated by the FBI. obviously he felt i was joking. And I gave him the honest, yet sad, truth about the United States criminal system post 9/11. |
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| Jocker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spective
what I did was a criminal act, but I dont think that warrants me being a criminal for the rest of my life.
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first off, i don't have any vendetta against you. and i don't judge people either. what i do, though, is having a 2nd-person point of view, not involved in all of this, which makes me look at things more from both sides, rather than just from one.
second, true, a person is acquited when he served his time or paid his fine. you, however, are trying to just reimburse people, i.e. give them back what they have giving you initially... this is where the trick is. it's not just about money, it's about moral instability over time, about worrying whether they will get their goddamn money back or not. i think you will agree with me that psychological well-being is as important as physical, and stressing situations like that will leave their mark (such as underperformance at job and otherwise). i've been in a hit and run accident myself, and i quite know what it feels like and what stress it brings.
so, my thoughts are, long story short, by reimbursing them you're left at the same place where you started (minus reputation, but that's something rather ambivalent and easy to rebuild from scratch in an online community) - so actually, you don't pay anything for your wrongdoings - you just return what you stole. and, quite naturally, that doesn't exculpate you even materially. and, unlike in real world, moral exculpation, i.e. reputation, is very easy - you just disappear and get a new nickname.
hope that helps in your quest to redeem the wrongdoings, if you want it. which, after all that i've read on this board, i will always doubt. |
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