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Yet another American beheaded. This is the sickest thing ive ever seen. (pg. 11)
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
lol I saw his speach what a joke,it was as if Bush was speaking,he was talking about all these progress that they have made.:rolleyes: well what do you ecpect from a popet government to say anyways?? |
That's funny because this guy was freely elected by IRAQIS... :rolleyes:
No one can really take this as a serious rebuttal since it's obvious it wasn't watched; or did you watch the CNN version which I don't count as being watched at all. |
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| da_MynDLesS_one |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
And 5 dozen Iraqi's killed by Sadam and his henchmen... |
That fact is undisputed...
Now, what is being disputed is why it was the Americans' place to avenge the deaths of these fallen Iraqi people. If Mr. Bush is such a hero, shouldn't he be out there stopping the other gross humanitarian injustices happening around the rest of the world? Why only Iraq? |
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| Mgz |
well, at least 33 fellow Americans death by Ivan, so what is the big deal about 1 American beheaded in Iraq?
Also Americans are know to beheaded other people,too (well, at least in 20th centuries) :rolleyes: |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
No survey needed,you can see it EVERYDAY,it is clear that Iraqi's are not happy,Americans lied to them,they abused them,they are taking their oil,the living conditions are worst then ever,and they dont want America's way of democracy is that so hard to understand?how many more Amercians have to die before someone relizes the that they are not welcomed there?
1000 dead and counting... |
Ok, if you said you that actually watched the video smartass, how many Iraqis were killed under the Saddam regime and how many do they figure are in mass graves? :mad: |
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| Mike_B |
| Irak is all Good and nice. But seems to me that sep11 was done by radical islamist that where trained by a Southie Arabian(Osama) in a country called Afganistan. How Irak came into this equation in not to sure. Guess Bush didn't Strike oil in Afganistan so he moved on. :P. So from what i've seen over the years during Sadam's Rules, he was a brutal controling Dictator. In no way would he ever let another leader run a training camp for an army other then his own. He may have been a mass murderer in the past against his neiboughring Iran and turks in northern Irak. But i don't remember anything that bad going on(meaning terrorist activity or random car bombings). I mean not much worse then any other dictatorship in that region. Irak has now become a breathing ground for terrorist. A reason for radical Islamist to bring regular Islamist to their cause. Bush is the biggest jerk we have seen in the past decade. another 4 years is just not acceptable. The world is then times more dangerous then when he came into office. Anyone that doesn't see this is either not paying attention or does not have enough interest in world affair to really notice. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
Navid, you complain about how one-sided people are that complain about the islamic fundamentalists in Iraq, but you are MUCH more one-sided than they are.
Most of the people condoning these groups' actions acknowledge the fact that it's not unwarranted and that the US has screwed up in the past, but you seem to have no compassion for these INNOCENT PEOPLE who's lives have been taken. These people have FAMILIES. Children at home who are never going to see them again.
You always complain about how it's worse in Iraq right now than it was before. OF COURSE it's worse. This is a war-torn country that is in the process of rebuilding! What, did you think, it was going to be easy? When it's all said and done, the Iraqis are going to be much better off.
And as Drew said before, do not try to compare the deliberate killing of an innocent civilian with the accidental death of civilians in military targeted air raids.
There is no excuse for this kind of behaviour. Everyday I open the paper and hear about another innocent person who's been executed. Something needs to be done about these sick, brainwashed, fundamentalist animals and quickly . |
Graham I know what you are saying,I hate seeing innocent people die,but tell me this would any of these events have happend if America didnt go to war with them?
I know there are no excuses for their behaviour,but this is a war and sadly this is their way of fighting back,and medie loooooooves to show you that.To the Iraqi's they view the Americans the same and see them as occupier and they condemed the way their country got invaded.
you talk about how these people have families and children,but so do the Iraqi's for god sakes why doesnt anyone care about how much they are suffering in all of this,these people are in the middle of a cross fire,and they wouldnt be in that position if Americans werent there Iraq has become the magent for these Islamic extremists thanks to Mr.Bush and his so called democracy plan.
How do yuo explain the torture of the prisoners?was that an accident?
Once again I'd like to say that I hate seeing all this happening,and there is only one person to blame,and thats BUSH. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_B
Irak is all Good and nice. But seems to me that sep11 was done by radical islamist that where trained by a Southie Arabian(Osama) in a country called Afganistan. How Irak came into this equation in not to sure. Guess Bush didn't Strike oil in Afganistan so he moved on. :P. So from what i've seen over the years during Sadam's Rules, he was a brutal controling Dictator. In no way would he ever let another leader run a training camp for an army other then his own. He may have been a mass murderer in the past against his neiboughring Iran and turks in northern Irak. But i don't remember anything that bad going on(meaning terrorist activity or random car bombings). I mean not much worse then any other dictatorship in that region. Irak has now become a breathing ground for terrorist. A reason for radical Islamist to bring regular Islamist to their cause. Bush is the biggest jerk we have seen in the past decade. another 4 years is just not acceptable. The world is then times more dangerous then when he came into office. Anyone that doesn't see this is either not paying attention or does not have enough interest in world affair to really notice. |
Thank god some people actually see whats really going on here. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mike_B
Irak is all Good and nice. But seems to me that sep11 was done by radical islamist that where trained by a Southie Arabian(Osama) in a country called Afganistan. How Irak came into this equation in not to sure. Guess Bush didn't Strike oil in Afganistan so he moved on. :P. So from what i've seen over the years during Sadam's Rules, he was a brutal controling Dictator. In no way would he ever let another leader run a training camp for an army other then his own. He may have been a mass murderer in the past against his neiboughring Iran and turks in northern Irak. But i don't remember anything that bad going on(meaning terrorist activity or random car bombings). I mean not much worse then any other dictatorship in that region. Irak has now become a breathing ground for terrorist. A reason for radical Islamist to bring regular Islamist to their cause. Bush is the biggest jerk we have seen in the past decade. another 4 years is just not acceptable. The world is then times more dangerous then when he came into office. Anyone that doesn't see this is either not paying attention or does not have enough interest in world affair to really notice. |
So you're saying that other than being a brutal dictator murdering tens of thousands of Iranians and Turks and Kurds and Iraqis and refusing to let U.N. weapons inspectors in despite being thought by all of the world's top intelligence agencies to have several illegal programs, Saddam really wasn't so bad.
Honestly I'll never get used to how ing stupid some people are. Because of course, a handful of car bombings is 10 times worse than a dictator murdering thousands, yes? :rolleyes:
Bush had all of 1 month in office to prepare for what happened on 9/11. He's certainly not the best president but he's done an exemplary job of dealing with these disgusting terrorists, as opposed to Clinton who was all talk and no action.
Here's a thought: why don't you read actual news from Iraq to find out how Iraqis REALLY feel about their lives? You may be surprised. I'll dig up sources if you want - I assure you that the majority over there feel that they are very much better off now than they were 2 years ago. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
That's funny because this guy was freely elected by IRAQIS... :rolleyes:
No one can really take this as a serious rebuttal since it's obvious it wasn't watched; or did you watch the CNN version which I don't count as being watched at all. |
lol ya Iam sure he was "Freely" elected,he is another kiss ass to the U.S. cant you see that?
Iam sure people there love this guy since he is very close to the Bush administration.:rolleyes: |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Ok, if you said you that actually watched the video smartass, how many Iraqis were killed under the Saddam regime and how many do they figure are in mass graves? :mad: |
Hey whats up with the name calling here kid? If you cant discuss this issue in good manners perhaps you shouldnt post. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
lol ya Iam sure he was "Freely" elected,he is another kiss ass to the U.S. cant you see that?
Iam sure people there love this guy since he is very close to the Bush administration.:rolleyes: |
Don't you ever shut up?
You're like that annoying fly that keeps buzzing no matter how many times it gets swatted at.
I used to respect you even though I disagreed with you, but you've just gotten to be such a friggin' pest lately. At least people like Your Mother (with whom I haven't had the time to really have a serious discussion, I'm sorry for that) have some kind of coherent argument to go with their statements. You just blurt out whatever irrational hate-induced fatuity that happens to be on the tip of your tongue (or fingers, whatever...)
There's a fine line between being passionate about a cause and being completely one-sided and ignorant. You have long since crossed that line. Please just let it go and let people have a real debate without having to deal with the buzzing fly. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
So you're saying that other than being a brutal dictator murdering tens of thousands of Iranians and Turks and Kurds and Iraqis and refusing to let U.N. weapons inspectors in despite being thought by all of the world's top intelligence agencies to have several illegal programs, Saddam really wasn't so bad. |
dont forget to say that your lovely Americans gave that dictator all the weapons he needed to kill all those people.
| quote: | | Bush had all of 1 month in office to prepare for what happened on 9/11. He's certainly not the best president but he's done an exemplary job of dealing with these disgusting terrorists, as opposed to Clinton who was all talk and no action. |
and thats why everyone is safer now then pre 911 right?rolleyes:
| quote: | | Here's a thought: why don't you read actual news from Iraq to find out how Iraqis REALLY feel about their lives? You may be surprised. I'll dig up sources if you want - I assure you that the majority over there feel that they are very much better off now than they were 2 years ago. |
Yes they must be celebrating everyday for their country being invaded,I mean who whould want to celebrate?
Their country is soo safe now,filled with Americans and islamic ectremists,and thats every nations dream isnt it?:p |
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