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The Official Raptors Thread. (pg. 18)
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| dEsidEL |
http://www.firepeddie.com/
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Famous Last Words
"I'm in charge around here."
- Raptors press conference (04/01/04)
"Hey, I'm just a suit."
- FAN590 Prime Time Sports interview(04/01/04)
"McCloskey said the team has eight GM candidates and will begin interviewing them on April 26. McCloskey said he'll decide who to hire. Peddie said two weeks ago that he would decide, and that McCloskey is more of an adviser."
- Associated Press article (04/15/04)
Pat Quinn, in response to comments made by Peddie in a radio interview: "You know what I've come to know in this organization? We've got lots of people who have things to say and really should be keeping their traps shut." (Nov 16, 2002)
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| crazedcanuck |
The sentiment of the article is right, that VC did a lot for the community, led a great 2-3yr run (not golden era.. pffft) And should be held in some good regard.
But the meat of that article is absolute fanboy crap. Carter only resigned here because the organisation bent to his every whim. Antonio Davis, Alvin Williams, Hakeem et all were all Carter demanded pieces of crap that hancuffed and crippled this franchise financially. The Raps have drafted ty, but so have the other teams in the league. It's not like we've screwed up lottery picks. How many good players aren't here anymore because of Vince? T-Mac, Billups, Christie, etc.
He has been in the league 6 yrs, and only been productive in HALF of them. The book on Vince as a player is wide open. He's got loads of talent, but very little in the way of skill and fundamentals. He has as much heart and dedication as MLSE alumni Jonas Hoglund.
If Vince carried himself even remotely as a professional, we'd all be more than willing to give him his standing "O". Instead, he tanked it in order to force our hand, has always carried himself with an air of disdain. Although it may have been directed @ the media jokers covering him, they are simply the filters that we see him through.
Add all the rose coloured glass you want, but we all see what he's made of. |
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| EvilDust |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
But the meat of that article is absolute fanboy crap. Carter only resigned here because the organisation bent to his every whim. Antonio Davis, Alvin Williams, Hakeem et all were all Carter demanded pieces of crap that hancuffed and crippled this franchise financially. The Raps have drafted ty, but so have the other teams in the league. It's not like we've screwed up lottery picks. How many good players aren't here anymore because of Vince? T-Mac, Billups, Christie, etc.
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It's all hindsight. AD was an all-star, Alvin was clutch in the 4th, and we loved JYD's enthusiasm. Hakeem...well who knew? the guy is a hall-of-famer after all...maybe we should've kept Oak then?
so what happens the next year? AD is a fraud and Alvin and Vince both get injured and the Dream was a nightmare.
Fact is, the team had great chemistry in that run so those signings were a good idea at the time.
I don't see how Vince caused all those players to leave though. He wanted T-Mac to stay but the guy wanted to be his own susperstar. Didn't we offer him the same amount as Orlando did? And Christie was traded for Corliss and I doubt VC had a hand in that. Billups just wasn't given the minutes. The guy isn't exactly a superstar but he gets the job done. The coaching staff probably just overlooked his abilities.
Point is, VC isn't to blame for the loss of those players. |
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| MarkT |
it might be too early to say "Vince who?"...but that was a great game...everyone stepped up and contributed.
more please :) |
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| Crazy Serb |
Yeah, it was a great start of the post-Carter season... and this trade is actually looking better by a minute. Sure, Vince contributed a lot to the club in the early years, put Toronto and Canada on the map (Air Canada, yea!), promoted basketball in the city/country, etc, etc. But, as that one article mentioned, his stats were on the decline, and he was getting more bench time due to all the injuries. What good is the star player if he's injured all the time?!!
But now when the focus that was on Vince Carter all the time is gone, all these other players on the team get a chance to step up and play a collective team game, instead of the "give the ball to Vince and hope for the best" game. It is proving beneficial, so far. Sure, Nets were shorthanded as well, but hell, they had Jefferson and Kidd in the game! Isn't that team supposed to be structuring around those 2 star players?! Bah...
Now if only Zo wanted to play here as well, pfft... that'd be sick. Big man down-low, enough shooters on the team to make any team in the league dizzy, plenty of defensive-minded players on the roster. Whooaaaa! Bring it on!
And if they even think about trading the big man Marshall, I'll give up on them... that guy contributes to this team so much, it's not even funny. He can rebound, block shots, get offensive rebounds, run the floor with the ball (or without), pass the ball, and is deadly behind the 3 point line. |
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| Matt |
| bout ing time we got rid of Vince. |
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| EvilTree |
And now you have this allegation from 3 Supersonics players that Vince tipped them off on an upcoming play one game.
Nuts. |
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| Crazy Serb |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
And now you have this allegation from 3 Supersonics players that Vince tipped them off on an upcoming play one game.
Nuts. |
??? :conf: |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
And now you have this allegation from 3 Supersonics players that Vince tipped them off on an upcoming play one game.
Nuts. |
bullocks.. i heard about this and i think it's just an attempt by a bunch of ppl to create something outta nothing
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| MarkT |
I liked the way Mitchell handled that...saying he can't "appeal" it or go back in time, so why talk about it.
ie. he basically was saying 'who cares, vince the distraction is gone, let's not keep his name in the media any longer than is necessary'.
oh, and the Jalen Rose haters...40 points over his last two games :p lol |
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| Crazy Serb |
^^^
must be cuz of Vince sitting out... :D
and for all the Murray haters (including myself), he keeps draining those 3 pointers and getting inside either drawing fouls or getting easy points... damn, he's back! |
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| EvilTree |
^
You'd also have to notice that he's defensively weak at times. (Then again, Raps do need to tighten up defence)
It's not like the Raps can drain 3s constantly. This just a fluke spell. |
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