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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
What is ridiculous about saying it has an accessibility advantage, so that djs don’t have to physically get and place a new record on the platter? you’re making yourself look like a fool here because those are chris liebings own words, not mine. If you want to 'rip' me for that then fair enough, but understand you are ripping him too, and I’m pretty sure he knows a lot more about FS than you do.
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You still have to look for the track. In scenario 1 you are digging through your record case in scenario 2 you are searching through a folder on your laptop. DJ's usually have their record case behind them or next to them, i guess if your really fat or really old than this movement to turn around or bend over can take up alot of time :stongue:
The advantage of FS is that you can carry more tunes in your laptop than in a record case.( Sasha also mentioned this advantage in a interview) Also , for people like PVD, mixing MP3's is advantageous for those re-edit or remixes DJ's like to do which are not on vinyl. Why not use CD decks? Because DJ's like to cue up a record and mix the 'traditional method' with a vinyl record. FS allows the DJ to mix MP3 but maintain a traditional feel.
Please show me the article where chris liebings said this silly comment. I doubt he would say that. But than again people do say stupid sometimes
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
I don’t understand your problems with what I have said, the % pitch control is a key feature, I don’t know how you missed that one & of course djs 'use' it, but like I said, its just text on their screen, they have to do the physical stuff the same as usual. |
I hate to make you look stupid but it will be fun. :D
1) Final Scratch does not have any feature to help a DJ match beats.
2) The Key Control is a feature that DJ's use in FS to increase or decrease the pitch of a record while not affecting the key of the record. Thus the name 'Key Control'
FinalScratch 2 Features:
• New 24-bit/96kHz hardware with Mic input, MIDI and more
• New hardware compatible with NI Traktor DJ Studio software
• 2 virtual decks with zoomable waveforms
• Play audio files from time-coded vinyl or CD
• Fast search engine works with over 50,000 tracks
• High-quality Key Lock (Master Tempo)
• New improved timecode readout with absolute/relative modes
• New mic recording with instant playback from vinyl
• New input recording for capturing your live mix direct to disk
• New loop playback makes adding loop samples to the mix easy
• New calibration tools provide optimal timecode response and tracking
• New cue points for marking breaks or other important sections
• New intelligent play history with time stamp and printing
• New onscreen 1-minute markers for faster visual cueing
• Lead-in graphics for use with lead-in grooves on vinyl
• Helpful auto gain adjust and BPM detection <--------------This is just a counter
• Assignable commands using "hot keys" or MIDI control
• Compatible with Apple® iTunes™
NOTICE NOTHING ON FS AIDS THE DJ TO MIX
Counters give you a general idea where your bpm is in a mix. It is not used to match records because the readings are inaccurate.
Many DJ's would agree with me when I say counters are useless. |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
Anyone who knows anything about the topic will KNOW that PvD, Liebing, Hawtin are all getting quite lazy now, and its no coincidence that they are all using FS...
however I agree with Zayatz, you cant generalise and say its the same for all FS djs, but its definately true with those three. |
You are contradicting yourself. First you say there is a relationship between being lazy and FS but than you say no relationship exists. But than you say it does for certain DJ’s :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Make up your mind :haha: |
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| Laushinameee |
yes you still have to look for the track, but then thats why FS has, as another key feature, a really powerful search function.
If you understood anything about the system youd realise, but its clear that you dont. Why do you think its mainly techno djs using FS? :haha:
quote from Liebing....
13. Do u think you’re as spontaneous using Final Scratch as you were using vinyl?
• I think I’m even more spontaneous. You are able to switch tracks so quickly, you were never able to with vinyl. You have to get your record off the turntable, put it back, put the new one on… with Final Scratch, it’s a matter of touching a button.
:haha: read the interview here click here
anyway, you clearly know more about fs than he does, after all you have just copied and pasted a list of features..
its shame that you obviously dont understand what they mean. If you did then youd know it was just a common use of the in built traktor technology. FS track readout can be customised to give everything from 'track', 'label' to 'bpm'.
Plus you talk about FS djs playing 'mp3' :stongue: i doubt many of them are playing ty compressed sound. Whats the point in having a 100% digital system and then use it to play a ty compressed format?? |
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| Laushinameee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dave Piazza
You are contradicting yourself. First you say there is a relationship between being lazy and FS but than you say no relationship exists. But than you say it does for certain DJ’s :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Make up your mind :haha: |
yes thats called being subjective and not generalising. If i were you id stop posting in here, you are looking like a fool again. |
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| Dave Piazza |
" You have to get your record off the turntable, put it back, put the new one on… with Final Scratch, it’s a matter of touching a button. "
Ok how much time do you really save? 10-15 seconds? Is this such a big deal? I don't think so.
| quote: | Laushinameee
Yes you still have to look for the track, but then that’s why FS has, as another key feature, a really powerful search function.
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It needs to be powerful because people who use FS have MASSIVE amounts of tracks on their hard drives. Again the advantage of FS is the amount of tracks you can store on your hard drive and bring with you to a gig.
If you’re a smart DJ you would organize your record bag so you can quickly pull out records in a few seconds. No real advantage vs. FS in time saved imo. |
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| arturob |
Paul doesnt mix mp3's on his fs ;-) and if there is a case of recieving a promo on mp3, he remaster it via pro-tools to-regain sound quality.................
ciao
art |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
its shame that you obviously dont understand what they mean. If you did then youd know it was just a common use of the in built traktor technology. FS track readout can be customised to give everything from 'track', 'label' to 'bpm'.
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There is no 'beat matching button' (which you suggested) or feature which makes this job any easier for a FS DJ vs. a traditional DJ.
You continue to say that somehow there is a difference in what a FS DJ has to do vs. a regular DJ. There isn’t. |
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| Dave Piazza |
BTW
Arturo are you opening for Ferry and Edgar V ????
If so Congrats |
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| arturob |
| no! that's one of the upcoming parties i'll be going to. |
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| Dave Piazza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Laushinameee
PvD, Liebing, Hawtin are all getting quite lazy now, and its no coincidence that they are all using FS...
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How did FS make PVD or the others lazy ??? |
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| Laushinameee |
Piazza > it is astounding what little grasp of the subject you have. Even when i show you what chris liebing says, you still choose not to agree with him. He uses the software every week, he knows more about it than you, and even if you do save 15 seconds, that can make all the difference to a techno dj.
I think its making people lazy because rather than using the ease of cueing that fs brings, they are using it as an excuse to leave cueing the track to the last minute, rather than playing more tracks or mixing faster.
I never said there was a 'beat matching button' dont be such a fool! I said that the dj has to do everything physically himself, but and these are PvD's words (again someone who knows more about it than you) 'FS allows for quicker & more sophisticated mixing'.
The reason for this is the in built traktor software, you will be able to read what the relative difference is in terms of bpm. |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by arturob
Paul doesnt mix mp3's on his fs ;-) and if there is a case of recieving a promo on mp3, he remaster it via pro-tools to-regain sound quality.................
ciao
art |
You've disappeared from the important name list :eek: :thepirate
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