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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
How many people there did i meet that had more money than you or i will ever dream of?
If you could only have seen the house i went to where this guy threw a private party.
Gigantic and he even rented a huge inflatable bouncy castle and had a gigantic sound system.
Sounds like an impoverished nation to me!
The whole north end of buenos aires puts rosedale to shame. |
That doesn't matter when you have close to 15% unemployment...that means taht only 85% of the people are working and many are below poverty levels...
So a few people have huge mansions...so what? Come on Jay you can't compare... |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
How many people there did i meet that had more money than you or i will ever dream of?
If you could only have seen the house i went to where this guy threw a private party.
Gigantic and he even rented a huge inflatable bouncy castle and had a gigantic sound system.
Sounds like an impoverished nation to me!
The whole north end of buenos aires puts rosedale to shame. |
No what puts me to shame is that they come here...get a loan, start a business...take out loans galore and then escape overnite. I've seen more than a dozen of those cases and they disgust me. Of course the guy can rent a huge inflatable bouncy castle...the money was probably obtained through some unethical means...but then there will always be people like you who admire this :sadgreen:
Jayx1...your not making any sense...give it up....you can't justify their life as better than ours. |
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| dallastar |
It is a proven fact that most women pay more for some things i.e. hair cuts, manicures and facials.
whereas Man most likely pay more for pedicures, waxing and other hair grooming (downtown)
Clothes are about the same price, but i find when I enter the Gap there are a lot more Women's clothes on sale then mens!
you just have to shop aroudn to get the best dealio's!:tongue2
have a great Day! |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
So a few people have a huge mansion...so what? Come on Jay you can't compare... |
This is a very big deal to those that have the huge mansion and those that aspire to have the huge mansion. Again, it comes down to values.... countries that have a great disparity between the rich and the poor tend to put a greater importance on merit then they do on social justice. Their thinking is that if you earned the money you deserve the money. Those who run companies deserve the money because they are able to run the company, those that plow feilds don't deserve much money because anyone can plow a feild. We don't think that way here but in many places they do. You cannot judge another state/culture with Canadian eyes and then opine whether or not that culture is superior or inferior to ours.... they are simply different.
By the way I should point out that the current governmental policies in place in Argentina are very much directed toward a redistribution of wealth to assist the less fortunate. Remember, this all started because I mentioned that Argentina is a fascist state... one of the keys in fascism is that the best interest of the nation is reflected by what is in the best interest of the majority of it's citizens. |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Although you will never hear me say that Argentina's economy is better than ours here is something that economic statistics rarely tell you.
The wages may be low compared to our standards and the GDP output may be low compared to our standards. Here is the catch. You can live very comfortably in Argentina on 1000 pesos a month. 1000 pesos a month bought me rent, food, utilities, transportation and full laundry service once a week. 1000 pesos is roughly $430 Canadian dollars. $430 canadian dollars doesnt even get you a month's rent in this country.
So the earnings may be lower due to currency exchange (they make about 6-10 pesos an hour at most labouror jobs) the cost of living is far far lower.
To use broad comparisons like that would make us look like paupers compared to the brits or the europeans. Minimum wage here is 3 pounds an hour. Try and live on 3 pounds an hour in england!
Oh yeah, and i was making 15 pesos - 20 pesos an hour teaching english. And they were more than able to afford to pay me these wages. |
My, aren't we naive ? YOU can live comfortably on 1000 pesos, but what about the poor sob who has to support his family of 5, pay for education, pay for health care, pay taxes, and still find the money to buy all the material things that you deem unnessasary. Try to understand that the only people who claim that Thirld world conditions aren't really as bad as they are made out to be are the people who have 1000 pesos to spend on the basic nessasities, and have a bank balance of an additional 10000 pesos just sitting there waiting for a rainy day.
I doubt you'll ever really understand what a poor person living in a third world country has to live through because YOU aren't a citizen of a third world country ! As a tourist, even a country like TANZANIA (second poorest GDP in the world) can be painted as a paradise. I challenge you to walk a single day in the shoes of a man who works the fields, or the mills of an industrial power plant, then comes home and realizes that 90% of his earnings are going to be spent on providing the basis needs for his family with almost nothing being saved up for his later years...
after you've done that, tell me that 1000 pesos is enough to lead a comfortable life. Till then i'm quite comfortable classifying you as a TOURIST with a fat bank balance who can't look beyond his own needs and yet is comfortable in assessing the requirements that the common man faces. |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Believe me, no one is getting paid $82,500 for a broken hip in Argentina.... |
I'm willing to bet that for a $82,500 a man in Argentina will sell you his hip, one of his kidneys and throw in his left nut as well. That's how radically different the situation is between Canada and Argentina. :D |
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| Moral Hazard |
HOLY CRAP ARE WE EVERY OFF TOPIC NOW!
Well, it's been a slice but I gotta run. Take care all! |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
HOLY CRAP ARE WE EVERY OFF TOPIC NOW!
Well, it's been a slice but I gotta run. Take care all! |
True dat
Jayx1...let it go and get back on to the topic of this thread |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
HOLY CRAP ARE WE EVERY OFF TOPIC NOW!
Well, it's been a slice but I gotta run. Take care all! |
Welcome to TOTA and a jayx1 Thread where you start with Canada but invariably end up debating how life in Argentina is better. ;)
PS. Argentina is a neo-fascist state. The term fascist state inherently draws comparisions to conventional fascism that was witnessed in Europe during the 20's and 30's. As you mentioned in one of your posts, what exists in Argentina today is not the same as what existed during that period. ;) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Sorry, I got side tracked by a lawyer calling me trying to negotiate an injury settlement. Actually, there is a good indicator of how good we have it here.... I was just arguing with someone as to whether or not a broken hip (cominuted and displaced) was worth $70,000 or $115,000. We decided that since his client was not a very likable person it was only worth $82,500..... When you have it so well that arguing over the value of someone's injuries becomes a person's entire profession then you've got a comfortable life. Believe me, no one is getting paid $82,500 for a broken hip in Argentina.... |
Actually... Its funny you mention this. My room mates dad in Argentina just got a settlement for $100,000 pesos from the bus company for a fall he endured when the bus started driving off before he was all the way on. He wrecked his back. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
No what puts me to shame is that they come here...get a loan, start a business...take out loans galore and then escape overnite. I've seen more than a dozen of those cases and they disgust me. Of course the guy can rent a huge inflatable bouncy castle...the money was probably obtained through some unethical means...but then there will always be people like you who admire this :sadgreen:
Jayx1...your not making any sense...give it up....you can't justify their life as better than ours. |
right because they are argentines there is no other way to make money than unethically. And yet you throw racist and chauvenist accusations at me.
Looks like a classic case of GOTCHA! |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
My, aren't we naive ? YOU can live comfortably on 1000 pesos, but what about the poor sob who has to support his family of 5, pay for education, pay for health care, pay taxes, and still find the money to buy all the material things that you deem unnessasary. Try to understand that the only people who claim that Thirld world conditions aren't really as bad as they are made out to be are the people who have 1000 pesos to spend on the basic nessasities, and have a bank balance of an additional 10000 pesos just sitting there waiting for a rainy day.
I doubt you'll ever really understand what a poor person living in a third world country has to live through because YOU aren't a citizen of a third world country ! As a tourist, even a country like TANZANIA (second poorest GDP in the world) can be painted as a paradise. I challenge you to walk a single day in the shoes of a man who works the fields, or the mills of an industrial power plant, then comes home and realizes that 90% of his earnings are going to be spent on providing the basis needs for his family with almost nothing being saved up for his later years...
after you've done that, tell me that 1000 pesos is enough to lead a comfortable life. Till then i'm quite comfortable classifying you as a TOURIST with a fat bank balance who can't look beyond his own needs and yet is comfortable in assessing the requirements that the common man faces. |
You forget that my opinions are not just based on my travels but also based on speaking with people and making friends inside that country. Many many argentines i have met agree with what ive been saying here.
Most people i met there made anywhere from 1500-4000 pesos a month. the very poor made 600 which is not unlike the comparison to life costs that minimum wage is here.
Again ill never say that their economy is better but they arent as piss poor as you make them out to be either and they definately arent all criminals. |
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