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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Try telling an argentine that he cant smoke in a club. They will literally shut down the country. |
Argentines have their own problems too and much less freedoms than us :rolleyes: |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Argentines have their own problems too and much less freedoms than us :rolleyes: |
fewer freedoms? how so?
explainations please |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
fewer freedoms? how so?
explainations please |
Did you like grow up Argentinian?
If you like it so much...why are you here?
You totally don't make any logical sense whatsoever with this argument. Argentina has it's reputation of corruption and injustice...how is that something to admire from a latin american country? No one country is better than the other. There are positive and negatives to everyone place and every thing :conf: |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
Wow...it's as if you didn't read a word I wrote.
I said it at the beginning....this is not about equality it is about greed.....business greed.
Inequality exists....so what.
And....if people strive to have some guideline to hold others in check....then so what????
re: "you believe equality is the key to ensuring that everyone has a good quality of life"
Where did you pull this out of? There has never been equality in any country. Classes were setup to make that impossible.
This is about greed....this is about money....this thread was made because a TA is trying to make it about man vs. woman...read Jayx1's comments...they speak loud and clear. TA's misconstrue it and continue the gender bashing
How is saying "beotch"...an acceptable contribution to an argument"
Since this is a public forum we should also be empathetic to each other....that's why IMO the macho tone has to be taken out of this discussion so that it can be intuitive and valuable. It's a stupid and negative circle and people need to stop going on it.
BTW....what's wrong.....don't you know it's all about assimilation now....resistance is futile.....you are part of the collective....live with it :stongue: :crazy: :tongue3 |
I'm sorry, some of your arguments led me to believe that you thought a greater measure of equality would result in a better world for all. I guess I should not presume things.
BTW, I actually think greed is a good thing as it more then anything encourages progress, however, greed is not restricted to want for material wealth. I will not get into this, however, as I have become tired and disinterested for today. We'll talk again I'm sure. Take care. |
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| starsearcher |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
fewer freedoms? how so?
explainations please |
I did not necessarily meant in a political sense...we are much more free to get out and not afraid taht someone will chop our hand off cause we're wearing a nice watch or disappear somewhere with no trace in sight and etc... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
Did you like grow up Argentinian?
If you like it so much...why are you here?
You totally don't make any logical sense whatsoever with this argument. No one country is better than the other. There are positive and negatives to everyone place and every thing :conf: |
Hey nowhere is perfect. But socially speaking i think we could learn alot from how they work. As they could learn from us on how to run a good business with customer service :) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
I did not necessarily meant in a political sense...we are much more free to get out and not afraid taht someone will chop our hand off cause we're wearing a nice watch or disappear somewhere with no trace in sight and etc... |
I never had that fear when i was living down there any more than i would fear flashing large amounts of cash in public in downtown Toronto |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
Argentines have their own problems too and much less freedoms than us :rolleyes: |
I agree Argentina has problems... especially economically. As for the freedoms I can neither agree nor disagree with you. I will, however, advise you that you must consider all freedoms to determine who is more free, not just the humanistic/victorian freedoms we cling to in the former British colonies. The same value we attribute to the "freedom of expression" certain cultures attibute to the "freedom to kill your wife for disobeying your command". We are not the ones to judge which freedom is right and which is wrong, we are not devine nor are we so enlightened that we know what is best for the rest of the world. We've made that mistake before and it has resulted in many attrocities by and against those who share our values. |
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| starsearcher |
| That's cause most people there have no cash...it's a fairly poor country that's now just beginning its reconstruction. It has a negative GDP growth, negative demand, low exports and fairly high poverty...like much of South America....those freedoms you are referring to that they may have politically really make no difference when you're living day to day and in that sense we are much more free to do whatever we want because we have the means to do it. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I agree Argentina has problems... especially economically. As for the freedoms I can neither agree nor disagree with you. I will, however, advise you that you must consider all freedoms to determine who is more free, not just the humanistic/victorian freedoms we cling to in the former British colonies. The same value we attribute to the "freedom of expression" certain cultures attibute to the "freedom to kill your wife for disobeying your command". We are not the ones to judge which freedom is right and which is wrong, we are not devine nor are we so enlightened that we know what is best for the rest of the world. We've made that mistake before and it has resulted in many attrocities by and against those who share our values. |
very true..
But i consider freedom the right to choose my own lifestyle and the right to express myself.
I find those rights are dwindling rather quickly in our neck of the woods without so much as a whimper of opposition. Those who do oppose get labelled with isms and ists. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
That's cause most people there have no cash...it's a fairly poor country that's now just beginning its reconstruction. It has a negative GDP growth, negative demand, low exports and fairly high poverty...like much of South America....those freedoms you are referring to that they may have politically really make no difference when you're living day to day and in that sense we are much more free to do whatever we want because we have the means to do it. |
Oh it does. When i was teaching down there imagine the shock when i spoke of the type of laws that we have up here when they asked. They had no idea. They couldnt imagine that countries like ours that tout themselves as "free" restrict their citizens in so many ways. |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Hey nowhere is perfect. But socially speaking i think we could learn alot from how they work. As they could learn from us on how to run a good business with customer service :) |
Argentina has it's reputation of corruption and injustice...how is that something to admire from a latin american country? And why would we want to learn this? |
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