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I hope Terri Schiavo's husband (pg. 7)
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ub3rTrancer
Wish i knew more about this case so i could make a concrete argument,
but from what i heard, according to the husband this is what she would want. If it was me on that bed with a tube strapped into my stomach so would I...
The husdand stuck toguether with his wife for a long time, during the recovery (before she became a veggie) and for years after... So what if the man whats to have kids? Have a real relationship? Let the guy move on... |
Exactly. well said Alex.
I would want the same thing if that was me... for myself and for my wife (or husband as in this case) |
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| j_spot |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Again, we don't know what she wanted. The only witness is her husband, who has a conflict of interest. |
not true. He is not the only witness. I cant find the actual court transcripts, but
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The battle became extremely difficult for the parents of Terri Schiavo since the ruling in Judge George W. Greer's courtroom in 2003 when, for a second time, a court order was issued to remove the feeding tube of Ms. Schiavo. This was due in part to the evidence presented by her spouse and his two witnesses, a brother and sister-in-law, who recalled a conversation held by Terri prior to her collapse. |
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/...prweb195209.htm
now that article was written Jan 11. long before this latest round of battles started.
So do you believe that all 3 of them perjured themselves? I certainly dont. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by j_spot
not true. He is not the only witness. I cant find the actual court transcripts, but
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/...prweb195209.htm
now that article was written Jan 11. long before this latest round of battles started.
So do you believe that all 3 of them perjured themselves? I certainly dont. |
Whether there are one or three witnesses is irrelevant - Terri's alledged statement is still hearsay. Also, her husband is not a credible witness because of his conflicts.
Equity demands that we err on the side of life until the mess is sorted out. Mass murderers get that right, so should Terri. |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
ahh..he's married thats what |
so? it doesn't affect his ability to speak on terri's behalf. |
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I see they've now put the Pope on a feeding tube.
And in a surprise announcement, Michael Shiavo says the Pope once told him that he wouldn't want to live that way |
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| djeso |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Whether there are one or three witnesses is irrelevant - Terri's alledged statement is still hearsay. Also, her husband is not a credible witness because of his conflicts.
Equity demands that we err on the side of life until the mess is sorted out. Mass murderers get that right, so should Terri. |
how old are you anyway?
do you know what Braindead means? check the dictionary please, how do you go about comparing her to the pope :rolleyes: |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by djeso
how old are you anyway?
do you know what Braindead means? check the dictionary please, how do you go about comparing her to the pope :rolleyes: |
Maybe you need to check the dictionary. If she were braindead, she would need a respirator to keep her lungs going. |
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| StereoPrincess |
Terri is not brain dead, she is actually missing most of her brain, it has been replaced with fluid and connective tissue. The parts that keep her breathing are there but barely and they are not going to last too long.
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Bulimia, Coma, Brain Death in Terri Schiavo
In the debate over what should happen to Terri Schiavo, many lose sight of the facts and background of Terri’s medical history. Terri Schiavo had bulimia which produced a potassium imbalance which in turn caused a cardiac arrest. This shut off blood flow to her brain, much of which then died. Today her cranium is largely filled with spinal fluid, not brain matter.
Terri Schiavo: Victim of Bulimia or Physical Abuse?
On February 25, 1990, Terri suffered a cardiac arrest due to a potassium imbalance. Just 27 at the time, she has never regained consciousness. Terri Schiavo’s potassium imbalance was brought on by a life-long struggle with her weight. She was chubby and shy as a child. It wasn’t until she lost 65 pounds that men began to pay closer attention to her, including her future husband Michael Schiavo. Keeping the weight off proved difficult, however, and Terri resorted to drastic measures. She developed bulimia and made herself throw up after meals. She tried to survive on liquids.
It is ironic that a woman whose brain has died because of her efforts to avoid eating would become the center of a controversy over whether a feeding tube should be maintained in order to keep her body alive. It’s also sad because her bulimia is rarely mentioned in the news. Terri Schiavo’s condition could serve as a lesson to those whose obsession with food and body image lead them into eating disorders.
Terri Schiavo’s parents deny that she had an eating disorder and believe that Michael Schiavo had something to do with her condition. A 1991 bone scan indicates traumatic injuries to ribs, joints, her knees, her ankles, several vertebrae, and to her right thigh. Some claim that this physical trauma caused Terri Schiavo’s condition and, therefore, Michael Schiavo’s desire to remove the feeding tube is because he’s afraid she will recover and testify against him.
Courts have not found these claims to be credible, nor have they believed that Michael is a callous husband. Michael Schiavo initially refused to accept her condition — when she was originally brought to the hospital, she might have been simply labeled DOA because of her time without oxygen, but Michael was adamant that they try to save her. All of the trauma to Terri’s bones is consistent with her cardiac arrest, fall, subsequent CPR, and resuscitation. There is also undeniable evidence of her eating disorder.
This evidence was sufficient for Michael to receive a USD $1 million settlement on a medical malpractice claim. A jury agreed with Michael that Terri’s doctors failed to diagnose her bulimia. Had there been real evidence that her condition was the product of abuse, the lawyers would have played it for all it was worth.
Where is Terri Schiavo’s Brain?
One of the central issues in Terri Schiavo’s condition is the existence or absence of her brain, specifically her cerebral cortex. The cardiac arrest which Terri suffered halted the blood flow to her brain. This, in turn, killed brain cells and has led to the long term deterioration of her brain as her body reabsorbs dead tissue.
A CT scan taken in 1996 revealed profound abnormalities. An EEG performed reveals that there is no electrical activity. In 2002, a CAT scan demonstrated massive atrophy. In place of normal brain tissue, almost all that is left are connective tissues and spinal fluid. Aside from a brain stem that keeps some autonomic functions going, she simply doesn’t have a brain.
This is not a condition for which there is any medicine or any therapy. When your brain is gone, it’s gone for good. Some describe Terri Schiavo as “brain damaged,” but this is as irresponsible as it is inaccurate. It’s done for the same reason that some refer to her as "Ms." Schiavo instead of the more correct "Mrs." Schiavo: to mislead. Terri Schiavo is “brain damaged” in the same way that a quadruple amputee has “arm damage.”
All of the doctors hired by Michael Schiavo and all independent doctors hired by the courts have agreed: Terri Schiavo is in a Persistent Vegetative State. No other conclusion is possible given the absence of a cerebral cortex. Doctors hired by Terri’s parents have disputed this diagnosis, but not in a substantive way that the courts have been able to take seriously. These doctors do not explain why the tests done so far are wrong (i.e., that she really does have a cerebral cortex) or, if the tests are correct, how a person can have consciousness and self-awareness in the absence of a cerebral cortex.
A persistent vegetative state means that a person’s brain is so severely damaged that even though they may exhibit wakefulness, they are incapable of experiencing awareness or reacting in a consistent manner to external stimuli. Terri Schiavo’s behavior may mimic normal consciousness and the heavily edited tapes released by Terri’s parents serve to perpetuate that impression, but tests performed by qualified physicians have demonstrated that there is simply nothing left there.
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Nevermind the fact that the pope has a personality and a chance at recovery. |
and he can still tell people to off with the tubes. he is not a vegtable. |
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| Sexyboy79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
rots in hell for what he is doing to this poor woman.
That is all I can say at this point. This whole thing makes me so angry that im speechless. |
Well bro i hate to brake the news to you bro there is no hell or god.
Death is a part of life and its her turn its that simple get over it.
What gets me is these right wing christians who want to keep her alive buy artificial means but say its up to god and all it makes no sense. Science kept her alive the same science these right wing christians are so agianst if it has anything to do with debunking there beliefs. Also why the hell is it the right wing christians are always so agianst death were there the ones supose to go on to somthing better, kind of funny if you ask me. |
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| Jayx1 |
| shes not being kept alive by artificial means. If she were then she would have died within minutes of being "disconnected". |
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| Kytracid |
| So keeping a person alive by inserting a feeding tube into her body while 80% of her brain function is dead is a perfectly 'natural' way to live is it ? |
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