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What would you do if someone asked you to turn down your music on the bus/subway? (pg. 10)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | | How long do you ever ride the TTC at one time anyways? Is it really so awful to have your music a bit softer for the duration of the trip? Who cares? |
and i would use your arguement to say the same thing about the woman. How long do we ride the TTC anyways? Would it be so awful to put up with such a minor annoyance and avoid potential confrontation of telling someone to turn it down?
| quote: | | You're another one of those people that seems to waste energy on meaningless confrontations. |
you mean meaningless confrontations such as telling someone to turn music down? In that scenerio, i wouldnt be the one confronting, just responding.
| quote: | | there are so many things in everyday life in this city to get annoyed or angry about....if you let yourself get angry or annoyed over them. |
This is exactly what id tell the woman on the bus telling me to turn down my music. Thanks for supporting my arguement!!
| quote: | | we don't all exist in isolation, you know. and while perhaps the woman doesn't have the RIGHT to expect you to turn it down, I really don't see what the big deal is in humoring her for the rest of your trip if she was polite in asking. chances are, you're annoying everyone around you, not just her. |
you are right, we dont all just exist in isolation. So you should expect that other's activities are going to have a minimal impact on your environment. Trying to cease someone's music or telling someone to shut up is basically a way trying to isolate yourself from them. And if one is so fragile to get annoyed by something as small as a radio headphone in the first place then they really do need to seek some professional advice. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by me@t k@tie
personally, I would probably smile and turn it down, as I am not one to want to cause confrontations. I might be a bit aggrivated, but what's the point in starting an argument? It doesn't resolve anything, it only makes things worse. |
but you arent the one causing the confrontation. She is by making it an issue by asking you. You are just responding. Escalation is up to her, not you.
Just because you arent giving in doesnt mean you are the bad guy. |
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| MarkT |
4 pages...jeez.
common sense issue, IMHO.
if you have headphones and your music is *clearly* audible on a reasonably quiet bus, and someone politely asks you to turn it down...then politely comply. I'd choose consideration over some idiotic pretense of enforcing my own "right" to listen to my music as loud as I want in my earphones.
BUT...if they're rude about it...then respond in kind...don't comply or ignore them altogether.
if they expect you to be courteous and considerate with your music volume, then you can expect them to be courteous and considerate when speaking to you. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
and i would use your arguement to say the same thing about the woman. How long do we ride the TTC anyways? Would it be so awful to put up with such a minor annoyance and avoid potential confrontation of telling someone to turn it down?
you mean meaningless confrontations such as telling someone to turn music down? In that scenerio, i wouldnt be the one confronting, just responding.
This is exactly what id tell the woman on the bus telling me to turn down my music. Thanks for supporting my arguement!!
you are right, we dont all just exist in isolation. So you should expect that other's activities are going to have a minimal impact on your environment. Trying to cease someone's music or telling someone to shut up is basically a way trying to isolate yourself from them. And if one is so fragile to get annoyed by something as small as a radio headphone in the first place then they really do need to seek some professional advice. |
I agree with you, Jay, on all points.
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
but you arent the one causing the confrontation. She is by making it an issue by asking you. You are just responding. Escalation is up to her, not you. |
EXACTLY. |
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| SonjaDanceDance |
| Tell them if they wanted to take a listen to what I was listening to and then if they still wanted me turn it down i would turn it down. |
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| bourgeois |
| i haven't read all the posts but has anyone ever asked you to turn the music down when you were on the bus?????? |
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| SonjaDanceDance |
| actually has never happened but I'm mentally preparing myself by reading this thread when it does happen. |
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| DigitalMP |
| quote: | Originally posted by SonjaDanceDance
actually has never happened but I'm mentally preparing myself by reading this thread when it does happen. |
hahahaha :thepirate |
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| Skipper |
So many of you miss the point.
Stop expecting other people to change. people will always be rude, ignorant, whatever. you don't have to be the same. |
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| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
It doesn't support his position, because I think for both scenarios, it really doesn't make a difference to most people if they allow the other person what they want. |
EXACTLY! So why ask the person to turn down the music in the first place? In your own words: "...it really doesn't make a difference to most people if they allow the other person what they want..."
| quote: | | I think it's funny and sad at the same time that people would rather be rude back to the woman rather than just make a small concession. How long do you ever ride the TTC at one time anyways? Is it really so awful to have your music a bit softer for the duration of the trip? Who cares? |
I think it's sad and funny that people would find a tiny bit of sound coming from my headphones such a bother that they would create a confrontation by asking me to turn it down. After all, how long do you ever ride the TTC at one time anyways? Is it really so awful that you have to hear a TINY bit of noise coming from my headphones? Who cares?
| quote: | | You're another one of those people that seems to waste energy on meaningless confrontations. Do you think when you tell that guy who DESERVES to be told not to butt ahead of you in line that he will never do it again? Of course he'll do it again! there are so many things in everyday life in this city to get annoyed or angry about....if you let yourself get angry or annoyed over them. |
But... I didn't CREATE the confrontation if I'm asked to turn my headphones down, the person who creates the confrontation is the one that makes the request in the first place! What about this point are you NOT understanding?
You also missed my point with the guy butting in line, you've assumed that I would create a confrontation and say something, but in reality, I have the EXACT same approach to it as you do, it's not hurting me to wait 2 seconds while he gets on, so why bother. BUT, if you're bothered by a little bit of sounds coming from headphones, then I'm not sure why you wouldn't have a problem with someone DIRECTLY disrespecting you by butting in line.
| quote: | | The only person's behaviour you can change is your own, and the only person's attitude you can control is your own. |
Exactly, so I've adopted the attitude that, though something may be a little bit annoying, it isn't worth creating a confrontation over it by asking someone to turn down their slightly annoying headphones.
| quote: | | we don't all exist in isolation, you know. |
I agree, and accept that, which is why I've learned to accept that people are going to smell bad, be loud, be annoying, be petty and rude, and possibly, even ask me to turn down my headphones. As long as they're polite, I'll even comply with their request! But that doesn't change the fact that they are being COMPLETELY intolerant when they make it.
| quote: | | and while perhaps the woman doesn't have the RIGHT to expect you to turn it down, I really don't see what the big deal is in humoring her for the rest of your trip if she was polite in asking. |
Actually, neither do I :) I agree, which is why I asked Jay the questions that I did.
| quote: | | chances are, you're annoying everyone around you, not just her. |
Chances are, she's the only person on the bus petty enough to let a little bit of headphone music annoy her. Chances are, it isn't even the headphone music, but OTHER things in her life making her so ing uptight that she feels the need to make a petty request like having me turn down my headphones. Chances are, if people learned to relax a little and leave other people alone if they aren't harming you, the world would be a little bit nicer to live in. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| Everyone in this thread FTW! |
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| ghetto_fab |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Everyone in this thread FTW! |
hahahahah jamie |
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