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TIESTO - Latest Interview [Indepth Stuff] (pg. 8)
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| iammesol |
I really like how Tijs mentions mixing on the edge. I remember for years I couldn't stand people talking about his mixing, because his crazy transitions and flow were my favorite part about him. He could feel the flow of the crowd, not just mix smoothly and boring. (To some people smooth mixing is boring as hell.) Now that I've found out he does it on purpose it kinda' makes a point.
I also like the fact that he admitted he was in a slump. I was a die-hard Tiësto fan up until the olympics. After that he seemed to lose his Z0MG AMAZING effect. I knew when the HMH gig came on that he was coming back. It's comforting to see I was right :) |
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| AnLyGi |
| quote: | | R: That's another big, thing: a lot of people say that you're a risky mixer. You take a lot of risks in your mixes, rather than making it smooth. Do you see yourself as a risky mixer? |
| quote: | | T: Yeah, I see myself as a risky mixer because I think if you mix very clean, that's great for like 3% of the audience, but the other 97% who don't have a clue about mixing tracks, they want to hear the mix. So, I like them to hear the mix, so they know there's a new track coming in. |
LMAO, what a load of 5h!te. Fade ins/outs like a local radio jock, abrubt, poor eq'ing and the odd trainwreck thrown in just because 97% of the crowd wants to hear it? jez.........
I am a fan of Tiesto, i love the atmosphere he generates at big room events but come on............
I don;t think it is lack of ability, far from it. Oakenfold Laziness Syndrome IMO or its all gone Pete Tong.........Franky Wilde style. |
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| Djshortcircuit |
T: Well, I know where I stand myself. But sometimes you just read stuff, and it's total bull. And then, you look at what kind of people write it. You know, somebody who's a dedicated fan of, say, Sasha. Of course he hates Tiesto! It's not his music, right. It's like me talking about, uh, Dolly Parton. (laughs) It doesn't make any sense. On the internet, you have to look at who writes it and for what reasons.
Thank you Tiesto for saying that... You're the man Tiesto... He makes great points in this interview...
I think that the times when hes gets the crowd going, does it matter anymore? (talking about mixing) I think its really big of him to say that he messes up... cool post... |
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| Swamper |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
I also like the fact that he admitted he was in a slump. I was a die-hard Tiësto fan up until the olympics. After that he seemed to lose his Z0MG AMAZING effect. I knew when the HMH gig came on that he was coming back. It's comforting to see I was right :) |
The problem becomes that once you reach that level of popularity you get shuffled from gig to gig/promo meet to promo meet -- the only time you have to breathe/think for yourself is on a plane or the odd times in the hotel room b4 a show.. It's hard to stay cutting edge all the time when you're caught up in that world... Sometimes comments that are said are made by ppl who don't take a second to think of putting themselves in his shoes.
...and on that last note -- I've had some top DJs (Trance/House) mention things to me in the past 2 years regarding some of the negative posts (and as usual I see signs of it in this thread) -- how about learning to objectively critique something without blatantly referring to everything they do as just because you're no longer a fan. |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Tiësto's mixing has always been the same. Back in the day nobody cared, but the first time he hit #1 it was suddenly cool to hate him... so the very same people who loved him the year before for his controversial mixing now hated him for the very same reason.
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bull. maybe live... I cant vouch for that, but his mix cd's have always had passable mixing. nothing amazing but it did the trick and the track selection was tight. ISOS 5 on the other hand is a complete joke in terms of mixing. adding insult to injury most of the tracks are either or just passable with maybe 3-4 being above average (thats out of 2 cd's mind you). |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
The problem becomes that once you reach that level of popularity you get shuffled from gig to gig/promo meet to promo meet -- the only time you have to breathe/think for yourself is on a plane or the odd times in the hotel room b4 a show.. It's hard to stay cutting edge all the time when you're caught up in that world... Sometimes comments that are said are made by ppl who don't take a second to think of putting themselves in his shoes.
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Do you know the number of local DJ's who bust their ass and work 100x harder than he does? When you're that big everything is handed to you on a silver platter. People send YOU tunes to play. All the time. You have people working for you that do practically everything, you have a team of people working behind you, the whole point is to let you concentrate on the DJing. I know people who bust their ass promoting events, getting new fans, digging through tons of music and evolving their playlist, handling their own bookings, booking line-ups, while having rock solid mixing all the time, and some of these guys/gals aren't known almost at all. Most of them have to juggle that between regular 9-5 jobs just to be able to get by.
I could not live with myself if I charged 10,000 people 55$ to come see me play and I didn't give it 110% of what I was capable of.
I understand that touring is hard, it takes a toll, and its rough travelling, but evryone has to go through the same , and really, its a hell of alot easier for a guy like Tiesto who has huge resources than the lesser known guys busting their ass to make it. |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
what are you talking about? The real Tiesto? It's not Tiestos fault that the producers dont produce trance as back in Magik 6 era.
It's the producers fault! :E |
well i cant disagree to that.... but have you checked out Tiesto's T/L recently ? apart from Isos5 .... which was decent...
im talkin abt him going live... i mean...even the ex GOD ( oken ) can give better t/l than that. |
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| MaGiKaL_MiKe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Phortastic
ISOS5 isnt a live performance either, its also a studio mix. So the comparison between isos5 & involver just in terms of mixing isnt that far fetched imo. |
uhhh Sasha produced/ edited all the tracks as a whole thing so something different then load tracks in Ableton (if he used it, no confirmation about it yes, alltho it sounds so) and mix then with eachother.
and about the so called sloppy, Yes he did some very sloppy mixing set in the past, but like he already said in t
he interview that was in the automatic pilot mode in a certain period. But if he mixes a track on a way that it just "fits" then IMO it isn't the most important thing if the freaking beat is 100% on top of it. It's all about feeling the track at that point and if it fits the feel of the set to mix it in or out on that specific way.
And I don't agree on the people here that say that Tijs can't beatmatch and only wrecks etc.. because he def can do some stuff very fast and very clear, but yeah sometimes it just not goes 100%, and maybe he does have that not 100% more often then other DJ's.
Trackselection and building/timing is far more important in a set then robotic beatmatching! |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MaGiKaL_MiKe
Trackselection and building/timing is far more important in a set then robotic beatmatching! |
yeah maybe. but too bad he can't even compete with DJs in the same genre/style when it comes to trackselection. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
Do you know the number of local DJ's who bust their ass and work 100x harder than he does? When you're that big everything is handed to you on a silver platter. People send YOU tunes to play. All the time. You have people working for you that do practically everything, you have a team of people working behind you, the whole point is to let you concentrate on the DJing. I know people who bust their ass promoting events, getting new fans, digging through tons of music and evolving their playlist, handling their own bookings, booking line-ups, while having rock solid mixing all the time, and some of these guys/gals aren't known almost at all. Most of them have to juggle that between regular 9-5 jobs just to be able to get by.
I could not live with myself if I charged 10,000 people 55$ to come see me play and I didn't give it 110% of what I was capable of.
I understand that touring is hard, it takes a toll, and its rough travelling, but evryone has to go through the same , and really, its a hell of alot easier for a guy like Tiesto who has huge resources than the lesser known guys busting their ass to make it. |
Sometimes you can just be so damn clueless. [insert DJ Mikey Mike's "WTF" smiley here] |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Sometimes you can just be so damn clueless. [insert DJ Mikey Mike's "WTF" smiley here] |
You honestly think the top 10 DJs have it so much harder than those around #500 something? |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
I may have the impression of a big fan, but if i don't agree with something he does i'm not afraid to speak my mind.
I'm no fanboy. |
yeah i've noticed this... fan doesn't necessarily equate to mindless arsekisser though. and i mean he was blatently on about you with the '7 beats' bit ;) |
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