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Fricken smile already and STFU!!! :p (pg. 8)
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| Theresa |
Alright, well.. I can't get any clearer than I have been, so I am letting you all battle it out about whatever you want to argue over. :)
Enjoy! |
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| Lira |
^^^ Is it just because I decided to talk about what you were talking? :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Uhh, I don't think that's the case. It has seemed to me that everyone has been arguing about something unrelated (war, world peace, "bubbles" etc.) to the actual point I was making. |
You know what? Before I go to bed, I'm going to actually stress what you were saying.
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out.
For quite a while, I've questioned the methods used by reporters not because I want the television to portray an ideal world - however, the more news about disasters there are, the more insecure (or numb) the population will feel, and that's hardly a good thing.
I would find it really interesting if, for a couple of months, all TV stations in Buffalo claimed that crime rates were raising, whereas all TV stations in New York claimed that the city was safer than ever.
What would the results be? Would crime rates really lower if people felt more secure? |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I'll just go ahead and say it point blank. The reason your message isn't coming across is because you are blind to your own hypocrisy.
For example let's say I want people to start recycling, but I don't do it because what I do at my house is my own business. Nonetheless I still want people to recycle because it's the right thing to do just keep me out of it. I will do whatever i want with my garbage.
It's a crappy example but I hope you get my point. |
I am sorry, I don't get the point.
My point was that:
negativity = angry, bitchy people
positivity = happier, pleasant people
I make sure to practice being positive and pleasant as much as I can. I think that translates often onto TA even.
P.S. I am a recycling fanatic :D |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
^^^ Is it just because I decided to talk about what you were talking? :p
You know what? Before I go to bed, I'm going to actually stress what you were saying.
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out.
For quite a while, I've questioned the methods used by reporters not because I want the television to portray an ideal world - however, the more news about disasters there are, the more insecure (or numb) the population will feel, and that's hardly a good thing.
I would find it really interesting if, for a couple of months, all TV stations in Buffalo claimed that crime rates were raising, whereas all TV stations in New York claimed that the city was safer than ever.
What would the results be? Would crime rates really lower if people felt more secure? |
Lira, I  You!!
You understand!!! :D Yay!!
Thank you :) |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
^^^ Is it just because I decided to talk about what you were talking? :p
You know what? Before I go to bed, I'm going to actually stress what you were saying.
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out.
For quite a while, I've questioned the methods used by reporters not because I want the television to portray an ideal world - however, the more news about disasters there are, the more insecure (or numb) the population will feel, and that's hardly a good thing.
I would find it really interesting if, for a couple of months, all TV stations in Buffalo claimed that crime rates were raising, whereas all TV stations in New York claimed that the city was safer than ever.
What would the results be? Would crime rates really lower if people felt more secure? |
When the first window breaks on an abandoned factory, the rest are soon to follow. As long as no windows are broken, there's less impetus for breaking one. But once it's seen that there will be no recompense for it, and that broken has become normal, all hell breaks loose. |
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| Rodrico |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
^^^ Is it just because I decided to talk about what you were talking? :p
You know what? Before I go to bed, I'm going to actually stress what you were saying.
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out.
For quite a while, I've questioned the methods used by reporters not because I want the television to portray an ideal world - however, the more news about disasters there are, the more insecure (or numb) the population will feel, and that's hardly a good thing.
I would find it really interesting if, for a couple of months, all TV stations in Buffalo claimed that crime rates were raising, whereas all TV stations in New York claimed that the city was safer than ever.
What would the results be? Would crime rates really lower if people felt more secure? |
I understand that message about how the media will focus on negative things more than positive things. But the example she used about how many times those words were used. Sometimes there needs to be truth in whats going on in the world, especially when it comes to war. Unfortunately with war, there are no pleasantries with what news has to offer other than the horrible reality that comes with it. Which is why I am arguing her point is flawed. The words dont make the story negative, the words just describe a negative action. I agree...the news does bring alot of negativity as subjects...not as words. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
Okay, lets take this for example.
If I wrote, all black people are ******s.
What would you think? obviously that I am a racist. And without a doubt by the choice of my wording, I could be interpreted that way. But the truth is, the context of the word ****** is another word for black person, its the adjectives or wording I use around the word ****** that creates the true context of what im saying.
If I wrote, all black people are filthy ******s. Then I am being offensive, the word ****** isnt offensive, its the way its used by certain groups of people that creates an offensive tone...which is the context.
When I write, those black people are some cool ass ******s, then obviously I am saying something nice, even though Im using the taboo word ******. Interpretation can be misleading and doesnt dictate the context of what the original person has said or written, unless otherwise shown by the original writer. |
hmm... I guess I see what you mean. However, I can't agree with your affirmative that interpretation doesn't dictate the context: it's the readers interpretation of the context that becomes valid to the reader.
You can't take the words of the writer objectively because you're not the writer, and you will never be able to interpretate the same way.
If you think I got something wrong, though, do correct me :) |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I'll just go ahead and say it point blank. The reason your message isn't coming across is because you are blind to your own hypocrisy.
For example let's say I want people to start recycling, but I don't do it because what I do at my house is my own business. Nonetheless I still want people to recycle because it's the right thing to do just keep me out of it. I will do whatever i want with my garbage.
It's a crappy example but I hope you get my point. |
The concept she is suggesting - peace - is a concept of inaction. How can you actively enforce peace then?
Theresa has stated that she holds, and has shared with us, an opinion which promotes peace and respect on a personal level, with hope of inspiring others to subscribe to it as well, no matter how saccharine it is. This is how she promotes her concept - right here, right now, don't wage war on any level. Then she proceeded to use both her own innocence (ignorance) as well as the disagreement with fellow posters as a weapon of realization, waging a small war of ideals on those who questioned (opposed?) her. Both sides have used the word "attack".
Peace through war. Nothing changes. |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
I am sorry, I don't get the point.
My point was that:
negativity = angry, bitchy people
positivity = happier, pleasant people
I make sure to practice being positive and pleasant as much as I can. I think that translates often onto TA even.
P.S. I am a recycling fanatic :D |
It's ok to be happy. :)
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out. |
Yes because you never hear about the people that don't get blown up.:gsmile: |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
If there's something that bothers me about the mass media nowadays is indeed, the fact that "negative" things have way more exposure than "positive" ones, as Theresa pointes out. |
theres plenty of useless e on the news. just watch the daily show. they make fun of it constantly.
the biggest problem I see with the news is that they show you a very limited ammount of whats going on around the world. especially american news. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
the biggest problem I see with the news is that they show you a very limited ammount of whats going on around the world. especially american news. |
+131zidane131 |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
When the first window breaks on an abandoned factory, the rest are soon to follow. As long as no windows are broken, there's less impetus for breaking one. But once it's seen that there will be no recompense for it, and that broken has become normal, all hell breaks loose. |
Not if no one acknowledges the fact that the first window has been broken.
Imagine if, a crime happened, no one reported it, and the police arrested the criminals without major repercussion. Wouldn't it be a lot more effective than telling everyone that a crime's happened and the city is less secure now?
It's the same with suicides - the TV rarely reports them because, once they speak about a suicide, lots of copycat suicides happen afterwards.
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
I understand that message about how the media will focus on negative things more than positive things. But the example she used about how many times those words were used. Sometimes there needs to be truth in whats going on in the world, especially when it comes to war. Unfortunately with war, there are no pleasantries with what news has to offer other than the horrible reality that comes with it. Which is why I am arguing her point is flawed. The words dont make the story negative, the words just describe a negative action. I agree...the news does bring alot of negativity as subjects...not as words. |
I hope this statement doesn't make me sound arrogant but studying words is something I do in a daily basis, and I do believe they're far more powerful than most of us can realise.
I'm off to bed now, but unless this thread has taken a completely different direction by the time I read it in the morning, I could post more about it. |
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