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Official RESOLUTION Montreal New Year's Eve 2006 Thread (pg. 30)
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| gummipolarbear |
| I think they'll close with trance, I'm hoping Calderone is somewhere in between |
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| LiGHT78 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Laden
speaking of beats, anyone want to guess the set times now? If Tiesto is on mid morning, then we'll prolly get some trance before that, so maybe:
Fabi- Torrence- Second Sun- Tiesto and then Calderone?
I can deal with the lineup but not in that order.. 'prefer to have the trance done with by 2am :p |
God that lineup looks pretty ty.
I hope this event doesn't suck. |
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| Marcus007 |
| The venue, party, friends, lasers, lights, victor will make up for it! |
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| Mitsutranza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
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Why do you think I have the most warped ideas about EDM?
You know I love some of your favorite DJ's too! Why am I the one with the warped P.O.V? |
Well you were talking about Superstar DJs and how the fame gets to their head thus they make it more about them than the music. Then you gave two choices about what to do when music evolves. I don't see the connection between Superstar Djs and evolution of music but I gathered that you do.
Your two choices sound to me like you don't want to be left in the dust i.e. you're going along with these Superstars only because they are popular and mainstream....that's warped P.O.V in my opinion.
But maybe I misunderstood you.
I think the only Dj me and you agree on is Sven Vath (and possibly Sasha?). But if my above view is correct than you like him for all the wrong reasons (i.e. because he's a legend, Sasha is too).
I hope I'm wrong bra (just watched the newest Southpark :stongue: )
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| Marcus007 |
No, no, no there's a misunderstanding here...
What I meant to say is you can either accept it for what the music is turning into (mainstream, etc) or turn into a basher who disses up anything that isn't commerical.
Eventually, those music elitists/trolls, disappear so that's what I mean with the "left in the dust" comment.
I don't like Tiesto, there are better DJs out there but am I gonna sit at home all day bashing any event that he's playing at?
Of course not.
I think the true EDM lovers need to respect both sides of the equation: commercial AND afterhour.
I love Armin. I truly do. Not because he's a superstar DJ but because he puts on a great show! Armin, in the commercial category, is top of his game.
YET...
At the same time I love DJ's like Sven Vath, Sasha, Nic F, Deep Dish. This is the afterhour category.
I'm just tired of seeing people diss up DJ's. It's become an influx of "BASH THIS" "BASH THAT" and I used to diss up Tiesto too but I've grown out of that. People have their conspiracy theories like Tiesto is just a marketing gimmick, etc, but what you don't realize is that he, and countless others, brought our music to the mainstream.
It's guys like Tiesto that have worked like a dog, excluding the years after 2003 when he just became lazy and pimped his crappy , BUT when he started out he worked hard as .
I just want to see other peoples music preference respected and not dissed up.
See you at Resolution... bahhh it'll always be Celebration in my heart...
(edit: Plus if you really love the music, I'll catch you rocking it on the dancefloor to Traffic and not rolling your eyes and walking off the dancefloor... this isn't directed to you Nick, it's for everyone. :P) |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
The venue, party, friends, lasers, lights, victor will make up for it! |
you forgot the disco biscuits :p |
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| Mitsutranza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
No, no, no there's a misunderstanding here...
What I meant to say is you can either accept it for what the music is turning into (mainstream, etc) or turn into a basher who disses up anything that isn't commerical.
Eventually, those music elitists/trolls, disappear so that's what I mean with the "left in the dust" comment.
I don't like Tiesto, there are better DJs out there but am I gonna sit at home all day bashing any event that he's playing at?
Of course not.
I think the true EDM lovers need to respect both sides of the equation: commercial AND afterhour.
I love Armin. I truly do. Not because he's a superstar DJ but because he puts on a great show! Armin, in the commercial category, is top of his game.
YET...
At the same time I love DJ's like Sven Vath, Sasha, Nic F, Deep Dish. This is the afterhour category.
I'm just tired of seeing people diss up DJ's. It's become an influx of "BASH THIS" "BASH THAT" and I used to diss up Tiesto too but I've grown out of that. People have their conspiracy theories like Tiesto is just a marketing gimmick, etc, but what you don't realize is that he, and countless others, brought our music to the mainstream.
It's guys like Tiesto that have worked like a dog, excluding the years after 2003 when he just became lazy and pimped his crappy , BUT when he started out he worked hard as .
I just want to see other peoples music preference respected and not dissed up.
See you at Resolution... bahhh it'll always be Celebration in my heart...
(edit: Plus if you really love the music, I'll catch you rocking it on the dancefloor to Traffic and not rolling your eyes and walking off the dancefloor... this isn't directed to you Nick, it's for everyone. :P) |
I'm not going to Resolution. Not only because I hate Tiesto or trance in general (trance got me into edm like countless others but I grew out of it) but because I'm not going to give 100$ to a party in Montreal that had all this money to book amazing talent, and they opted to book mainstream because of the guaranteed profits they will make. I'm willing to bet that if they booked a techno DJ, an internationally succesful house DJ (not someone we can see every one or two months in an after) etc. instead of "cash-guarantee" Tiesto/Second Sun, and Victor Calderone they wouldnt lose any business and the profits would still be there...after all, its a RAVE in Montreal with 5000+ people and at the core its about friends having fun like malik and jen said..
If you truly love Armin that's fine...although it shouldn't be for his showmanship but for the music he spins, which means you truly love trance and that is completely fine, it's your taste but don't say if you truly love music you will be dancing to Traffic coz that statement is sooooooo wrong dude. I don't like trance (especially not Tiesto's trance...Van Doorn is one of the very few now who's still making trance a respectable genre) and that's my taste.
We don't bash any event he's playing at, we bash the fact that he's the headliner for Montreal's New Years Eve Rave. Im still confused about what you're saying here: you know that Tiesto is spinning crap from 2003 onwards and yet you still can't wait to dance to his at this party? That can only mean one thing: it isn't about the music for you, it's about the party and that's fine again (although warped in my opinion;)) This forum is about music-lovers first and foremost, not people who want to be with friends at a good party :) so if we bash we bash with reason and according to our personal tastes and opinions. Music discussion no?
| quote: | People have their conspiracy theories like Tiesto is just a marketing gimmick, etc, but what you don't realize is that he, and countless others, brought our music to the mainstream.
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The problem is that you see this as a good thing, and I don't ;)
We're just looking at the same thing from different angles bra that's all, that's fine.
MT
Ps: You can put Deep Dish in the commercial category :p |
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| Spin Laden |
funny how there's factions even on this website, because if you guys step out of the TA bubble for a moment, there are actually ppl out there who still don't know AVB or Tiesto :p By our standards they are mainstream but not by the ppl out there (the majority).
I agree with both of you, I'm gonna sit on the fence. It's about the party with the peeps AND the music. |
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| Mitsutranza |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Laden
funny how there's factions even on this website, because if you guys step out of the TA bubble for a moment, there are actually ppl out there who still don't know AVB or Tiesto :p By our standards they are mainstream but not by the ppl out there (the majority).
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You're talking about the whole world? Or people who listen to edm?
I think any person who listens to any electronic dance music has heard of and knows of Tiesto and Armin :p
As for the others...they don't count coz they listen to the other 1000 genres of music not considered edm :p
There aint many of us out there and I like that :)
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mitsutranza
You're talking about the whole world? Or people who listen to edm?
As for the others...they don't count coz they listen to the other 1000 genres of music not considered edm :p
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Whole world
| quote: | Originally posted by Mitsutranza
There aint many of us out there and I like that :)
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PLUR POWER, DUDE :p :p
In terms of the future of the massive in MTL,I think this particular massive is gonna really have a lot of important things riding on it, including that. Booking Tiesto will skim off the purists (like you and ANF) for sure but I can't forsee future massives with a booking any more commercial than this, esp if Tiesto delivers a turd of a set. That will be the end of him (too costly) and the other suspect djs listed in this thread before you see the end of the massive in Montreal.
I think GK and Bal en Blanc really listen to its customers, as any good business that wants to thrive for the long term do. The edm crowd has an especially loud voice, especially with the web coming into play.
Or maybe I'm being a nOOb optimist here... |
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| 84th Ave. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Laden
I think GK and Bal en Blanc really listen to its customers, as any good business that wants to thrive for the long term do. The edm crowd has an especially loud voice, especially with the web coming into play.
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I still dont get this. How can a handfull of ppl on TA represent a whole city. What customers? Any time tiesto or armin comes its packed, so they are obviously doing that, just because some ppl here are past trance (which is fine, i love other geners of EDM also) you cant say like someone was saying that this event was geard towards Ontario or something, like people have to stop thinking that just cause some TA's are not going that EVERYONE is not going, i am certain there is going to be a load of people from Montreal. |
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| 84th Ave. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
People have their conspiracy theories like Tiesto is just a marketing gimmick, etc, but what you don't realize is that he, and countless others, brought our music to the mainstream.
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ur exactly right marcus, tiesto now does suck now, plain and simple, just listen to that ing pirate song, :whip: but don't tell me that when someone enters the EDM scene u think they actually listen to James Holden, Thomas Shumacher, John Dahlback, Johannes Heil, Extrawelt, could go on forever. No, the first person they listen to is tiesto or armin, wtv its not a bad thing, cause after some time they grow to love other geners such as house and better artists like the ones i mentioned. |
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