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Saddam Hussein convicted to death by hanging (pg. 10)
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Oh yes. Iraqis had plenty of security. They just couldn't look at Saddam the wrong way, never kind criticize him at all cuz they go to one of Saddam's funland and get the crap beat out of them if lucky. |
My question for you is that why did they decide to remove him now?why didnt they do it 20 years ago?was he a good dictator back in the days?why did he become soooooo evil so suddenly? |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Oh yes. Iraqis had plenty of security. They just couldn't look at Saddam the wrong way, never kind criticize him at all cuz they go to one of Saddam's funland and get the crap beat out of them if lucky. |
It IS a security. You're mixing up freedom and security. They had plenty of security, just not freedom. Now they have plenty of freedom and not much security. Which is better? Hard to tell, but Americans are happily trading away their freedoms for more security. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Some nations just aren't meant for democracy. Being a Russian person, I can just tell you the Russian nation cannot be left to be governed by ourselves. Well it can, but there'll be little progress. Our best years throughout history have ALWAYS been under rulers who ruled with an iron fist. I can't quite explain it, but the Russians need to feel they are being controlled in order to be productive. Democracy kills the need for a strong leader imo, and some nations are just too used to looking up to their strong leader for direction. Regardless of the atrocities Stalin did, which the population more or less knew about, they turned a blind eye to it and did whatever was asked of them, because Stalin oozed confidence and strong leadership. It's the same with our Czars - the most ruthless ones progressed Russia far more than weak ones. I think it's the same thing in Iraq/middle east in general. They need that leader figure. If it's not in the government, then one will rise out of the general population. |
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Iraq needs a dictator to run the country.the sooner this happens the more lives will be saved. |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
My question for you is that why did they decide to remove him now?why didnt they do it 20 years ago?was he a good dictator back in the days?why did he become soooooo evil so suddenly? |
I don't read minds :p
Really, only person who can answer that is Bush and I don't think he likes you enough to tell you :p
Some ppl get their comeuppence sooner than later. Some don't get theirs at all.
Life isn't fair, eh.
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
It IS a security. You're mixing up freedom and security. They had plenty of security, just not freedom. Now they have plenty of freedom and not much security. Which is better? Hard to tell, but Americans are happily trading away their freedoms for more security. |
Well, Iraqis had security except security from Saddam. |
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| SummerCallin |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
I don't read minds :p
Really, only person who can answer that is Bush and I don't think he likes you enough to tell you :p |
U dont neeed to be a mind reader sometimes u can use common sense and put 2 adn 2 together.
| quote: | Some ppl get their comeuppence sooner than later. Some don't get theirs at all.
Life isn't fair, eh. |
Bush isnt really in charge of the world. (well atleast not OFFICIALLY), we're not talkin about some kid gettin punished because he was bein bad, its about a frigin nation and ppls lives
| quote: | | Well, Iraqis had security except security from Saddam. |
ya he was a dictator, not their LOVING FATHER |
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| drgoodvibe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Some nations just aren't meant for democracy. Being a Russian person, I can just tell you the Russian nation cannot be left to be governed by ourselves. Well it can, but there'll be little progress. Our best years throughout history have ALWAYS been under rulers who ruled with an iron fist. I can't quite explain it, but the Russians need to feel they are being controlled in order to be productive. Democracy kills the need for a strong leader imo, and some nations are just too used to looking up to their strong leader for direction. Regardless of the atrocities Stalin did, which the population more or less knew about, they turned a blind eye to it and did whatever was asked of them, because Stalin oozed confidence and strong leadership. It's the same with our Czars - the most ruthless ones progressed Russia far more than weak ones. I think it's the same thing in Iraq/middle east in general. They need that leader figure. If it's not in the government, then one will rise out of the general population. |
...very much agree with this point of view. |
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| extacy_bomb |
| quote: | Originally posted by SummerCallin
I didnt say u suck but OK! |
j/k ... we both suck ... lol
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_cookie
lol some people srsly need to work on their english before attempting to join in on an argument.:p |
Lol ..hahha ,what a joke!!
at least some aint geeks.
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
:conf: layoff the drugs man,I have no idea wht you are saying. |
DUuugh , i was jus giving an example.
i wasn't high at the time, was jus recovering
:thepirate
okay i read your reply and got what your point view is.
To be honest man, it's just the way you look at life.
I rather be the best or die at any situation. What I mean is that I don want to limit myself to things that i have or things that others force me to have.
I'd rather stay on my feet and change things than living some miserable life that other fukcers force me to live.
So you think before Bush invaded Iraq,they had a better life because Iraq was secure. That's the main reason why our point views are different. For me, happiness and success is only to be reached when i get my freedom. when I can have a choice.
Example: “prisoners have way more security than the people outside of jail since they don encounter with life but are they Happy?” think about it. |
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| Paulinho |
| they should hang Bush beside Saddam IMO |
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| extacy_bomb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Some nations just aren't meant for democracy. Being a Russian person, I can just tell you the Russian nation cannot be left to be governed by ourselves. Well it can, but there'll be little progress. Our best years throughout history have ALWAYS been under rulers who ruled with an iron fist. I can't quite explain it, but the Russians need to feel they are being controlled in order to be productive. Democracy kills the need for a strong leader imo, and some nations are just too used to looking up to their strong leader for direction. Regardless of the atrocities Stalin did, which the population more or less knew about, they turned a blind eye to it and did whatever was asked of them, because Stalin oozed confidence and strong leadership. It's the same with our Czars - the most ruthless ones progressed Russia far more than weak ones. I think it's the same thing in Iraq/middle east in general. They need that leader figure. If it's not in the government, then one will rise out of the general population. |
As far as i've heard/read russia is pretty much a free and secure place now.
And it's not beeing ruled by dictators anymore...
don't you agree? |
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| SummerCallin |
| quote: | Originally posted by extacy_bomb
j/k ... we both suck ... lol |
Hi do i know u? :s
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okay i read your reply and got what your point view is.
To be honest man, it's just the way you look at life.
I rather be the best or die at any situation. What I mean is that I don want to limit myself to things that i have or things that others force me to have.
I'd rather stay on my feet and change things than living some miserable life that other fukcers force me to live.
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I'm sorry if this sounds rude but u cannot sit on ur bum live a relatively good life (clearly u have a computer and internet and enough money to go partyin all the time, so yes im assumin u live a good life) and compare urself to those people. Seriously how dare you. I realize u want the best but get real some people dont even have enough to eat they can't really go for the best!!then they get ignorant people who prolly have no idea wats really goin on outside their perfect bubble sittin on their lazy bums doin nothing but makin stupid comments like "DONT WORRY KIDS I ASSURE U these ppl would rather die" |
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| SummerCallin |
| quote: | Originally posted by extacy_bomb
As far as i've heard/read russia is pretty much a free and secure place now.
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U read? :conf: |
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| extacy_bomb |
| quote: | Originally posted by SummerCallin
Hi do i know u? :s
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Hi, i don think so ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by SummerCallin
I'm sorry if this sounds rude but u cannot sit on ur bum live a relatively good life (clearly u have a computer and internet and enough money to go partyin all the time, so yes im assumin u live a good life) and compare urself to those people. Seriously how dare you. I realize u want the best but get real some people dont even have enough to eat they can't really go for the best!!then they get ignorant people who prolly have no idea wats really goin on outside their perfect bubble sittin on their lazy bums doin nothing but makin stupid comments like "DONT WORRY KIDS I ASSURE U these ppl would rather die" |
Ya thanks god that i am having a good life. But if i was in their position, as far as i know myself I’d rather have a free life which isn't secure than living a secure life which isn't free.
Life is tough you know, some are lucky some aint.
But the most important thing is to take steps towards the better, even though it might have consequences.
Maybe people of Iraq have no intension what so ever to have the same democracy as west, But i think us humans, we all deserve freedom.
Now at least there's a little hope for future. By future i mean atleast 20 years from now
| quote: | Originally posted by SummerCallin
U read? :conf: |
duuuh! What do you think internet is for? Downloading porn movies? :clown:
lol... |
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