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Saddam Hussein convicted to death by hanging (pg. 11)
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Orbitus
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[i][b] History has shown that societies change when they are ready, not when war forces them to change. Changes forced by war are usually always reversed within a 10 year span of the end of the war.

Oh really? Are you saying that the Japanese and the Germans are still the same after MOSTLY America did the dirty work in the 2nd world war for the Europeans and Asians??
If it wasn't for America Europeans would all be speaking German as a second language and South East Asia would be speaking Japanese as a second language. I for one am thankful that the USA is the super power and not one of these Dictatorial regimes. Then you you would really have something to whine about.
Orbitus
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
My question for you is that why did they decide to remove him now?why didnt they do it 20 years ago?was he a good dictator back in the days?why did he become soooooo evil so suddenly?


One word for you : 9-11. (ok it's a number).

America has every right after this cowardly attack on innocent civilians to go and kick some ass. This attack was no different than the Pearl Harbour attack in 1940.
It was an act of out right war on the US. Iraq and other countries that support cowardly acts of terrorism are getting what they deserve.
extacy_bomb
oh boy...

It's gonna get messy ...lol ... really messy!
SummerCallin
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Originally posted by Orbitus
One word for you : 9-11. (ok it's a number).

America has every right after this cowardly attack on innocent civilians to go and kick some ass. This attack was no different than the Pearl Harbour attack in 1940.
It was an act of out right war on the US. Iraq and other countries that support cowardly acts of terrorism are getting what they deserve.



So are u sayin Saddm was responsible for 9-11 or the iraqis?
u know wat, dont answer that, it doesnt matter theyre killin all of em, those damn iraqis!! bu now we can all live happily ever after! :)
SummerCallin
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Originally posted by extacy_bomb

Ya thanks god that i am having a good life. But if i was in their position, as far as i know myself I�d rather have a free life which isn't secure than living a secure life which isn't free.
Life is tough you know, some are lucky some aint.
But the most important thing is to take steps towards the better, even though it might have consequences.
Maybe people of Iraq have no intension what so ever to have the same democracy as west, But i think us humans, we all deserve freedom.
Now at least there's a little hope for future. By future i mean atleast 20 years from now



wow uve said so much iunno where to start, so im just gonna say this.... yea stop downloadin porn and start readin (try maybe a book or something ...u know those things wit alotta pictures and writingS? )


p.s. u might know urself but u def. dont know urself in THAT situation so it really doesnt matter what U would prefer cuz its NOT about YOU!



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Originally posted by Paulinho
they should hang Bush beside Saddam IMO


haha NOW we're talkin! :cool:
Orbitus
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Originally posted by SummerCallin
So are u sayin Saddm was responsible for 9-11 or the iraqis?
u know wat, dont answer that, it doesnt matter theyre killin all of em, those damn iraqis!! bu now we can all live happily ever after! :)


Actually I sympathise deeply with the average Iraqi who just wants to get on with their life and live FREELY and peacefully. But unfortunately some misguided radicals are spoiling it for everyone.
Change is never easy and never cheap. But we have all (as nations) gone through our periods of change and they weren't easy either.
The sooner the whole world can live freely (Democratically) and peacefully the better.
SummerCallin
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Originally posted by Orbitus

Change is never easy and never cheap. But we have all (as nations) gone through our periods of change and they weren't easy either.


That completely true, except that :
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Originally posted by nusty
History has shown that societies change when they are ready, not when war forces them to change. Changes forced by war are usually always reversed within a 10 year span of the end of the war.
Xavier Moriarty
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If it wasn't for America Europeans would all be speaking German



lol.

this thread is.... i dont know. at times im laughing, some times im really sad and some times im really puzzled.

how did we get to americans liberating us poor europeans from talking about saddam?
Xavier Moriarty
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Originally posted by Orbitus
The sooner the whole world can live freely (Democratically) and peacefully the better.


but you do understand that will never happen?
DJMASTA_DON
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Originally posted by nusty
how was he stealing money from all of us? did he open your bank account and help himself? even then, thats hardly justification for a death sentence.


He was stealing money from the oil for food program therefor stealing from our governments which means stealing from US GET IT:mad:

Orbitus
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Originally posted by SummerCallin
That completely true, except that : That countries don't change until they're ready


Dude, you're wrong. Japan changed lickety split after being nuked and the Germans have certainly changed their war mongering days after the Soviet Union and Allies invaded them.
nusty
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Originally posted by Orbitus
Dude, you're wrong. Japan changed lickety split after being nuked and the Germans have certainly changed their war mongering days after the Soviet Union and Allies invaded them.


but you were arguing the flip side of that argument. That the rest of the world would be speaking german or japanese... I don't think it would have worked out that way, within a few years the world would have rebeled back and reclaimed what was theirs.

Gov'ts and countries change when ready. Japan was structurally ready for change prior to US forces coming in and were merely given the extra nudge. It would have happened anyway within a few years. Their technological inovations were accelerating at a faster pace than anywhere else at that time and they were improving the standard of living rather quickly with a strong emerging educated middle class.
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