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Dubstep (pg. 12)
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Az
tell bas not to play get mad, the kick sounds balls |
Ok. I only have it at work so I didnt even burn it for myself. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
I think Ishkur's got a sample of something like that on his Guide, under the 'Speedbass' section. |
Oh, I remember that. No speedbass is better than Bathyst - Biotron Tanake, though :D |
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| ToxicGreenWaste |
| quote: | Originally posted by julien2
This fad is actually a revival of the 80s. |
Yeah, especially considering there was nothing remotely resembling dubstep in the 80's. |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by ToxicGreenWaste
Yeah, especially considering there was nothing remotely resembling dubstep in the 80's. |
Sounds very similar to disco step |
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| PETRAN |
| quote: | Originally posted by distant
You didn't answer my question. |
I told you my opinion, the question you ask is extremely stupid and pointless. You want me to tell you where exactly have i heard that sound before? Obviously i haven't heard this SPECIFIC style bcause every musician (albeit the good ones, the more creative ones) have his/her own take of the genre they belong. To take uk garage and make it more deep and more melodic isn't exactly the creation of a new artistic movement. The Field is playing minimal techno. Despite that, his album "From Here We Go Sublime" got wide recognition, even outside EDM. Why is that? Obviously the guy's view of minimal techno distinquished it from the hordes of generic and pointless minimal techno releases that exist out there. In relation to Burial, The Field took the minimal formula, and added a bit more substance, more melody, more reverb and delay (some call it shoegaze-techno!) and created this sound. Seriously, these SPECIFIC sounds haven't been done before. You may call it groundbreaking but i would just say its just more "creative" within a genre/sounds standards.
If the word "groundbreaking" was assigned so easily, then countless releases of 2007 would be considered "groundbreaking
and "forward-thinking",maybe because the combination of sounds wasn't EXACTLY identical to a genre's standards. These would also entail many releases of the MetaCritic list such as The Arcade Fire's "Neon Bible" ( their cinematic, symphonic and operatic take of 80s new-wave presented in modern rock production with synth-lines hasn't been done before in this specific way), Eluvium's "Copia"( his neo-classical-meets-drone-meets-ambient style hasn't been done in this way before), Apparat's "Walls" (his IDM-meets-indierock-meetsorchestral/soundtrackmusic-meetsambient-meetsshoegaze-meetspop hasn't been done before) Stars of The Lid's album which features slowly developing ambient-drone compositions by means of heavy bombastic orchestral passages hasn't been done before (except from themselves!), i've never heard ambient exactly like M83's "digital shades" before and i can continue like that forever...
Ironically you labelled all these releases as "indie-rock", demonstrating your deep ignorance about music in general (at least music outside dubstep). Plus your statement that Burial's album was more forward-thinking in comparison to all these releases , was childish and laughable, first, because you haven't heard all these releases and second, because even if you have, i can't see how can you come in such "pseudo-objective" statements since as far as i know, there is no "Creativo-meter" out there (and surely a creativo-meter is not any random dubstep kid out there...). Musically speaking i assure you though that many of these releases were far more complex in relation to Burial's album. Your blind fanboyism for dubstep can be ridiculous at times...
Furthermore, just because something is different doesn't make it of high musical quality. Burial's "untrue" or the album by the Field are great fun to listen to, but they are not outstanding pieces of musical beauty, a revelation, or anything like that...As i said before, they are great albums for what they are. |
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| julien2 |
Burial - Burial was forward-thinking
Burial - Untrue was the consecration. genius work |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
I told you my opinion, the question you ask is extremely stupid and pointless. You want me to tell you where exactly have i heard that sound before? Obviously i haven't heard this SPECIFIC style bcause every musician (albeit the good ones, the more creative ones) have his/her own take of the genre they belong. To take uk garage and make it more deep and more melodic isn't exactly the creation of a new artistic movement. The Field is playing minimal techno. Despite that, his album "From Here We Go Sublime" got wide recognition, even outside EDM. Why is that? Obviously the guy's view of minimal techno distinquished it from the hordes of generic and pointless minimal techno releases that exist out there. In relation to Burial, The Field took the minimal formula, and added a bit more substance, more melody, more reverb and delay (some call it shoegaze-techno!) and created this sound. Seriously, these SPECIFIC sounds haven't been done before. You may call it groundbreaking but i would just say its just more "creative" within a genre/sounds standards.
If the word "groundbreaking" was assigned so easily, then countless releases of 2007 would be considered "groundbreaking
and "forward-thinking",maybe because the combination of sounds wasn't EXACTLY identical to a genre's standards. These would also entail many releases of the MetaCritic list such as The Arcade Fire's "Neon Bible" ( their cinematic, symphonic and operatic take of 80s new-wave presented in modern rock production with synth-lines hasn't been done before in this specific way), Eluvium's "Copia"( his neo-classical-meets-drone-meets-ambient style hasn't been done in this way before), Apparat's "Walls" (his IDM-meets-indierock-meetsorchestral/soundtrackmusic-meetsambient-meetsshoegaze-meetspop hasn't been done before) Stars of The Lid's album which features slowly developing ambient-drone compositions by means of heavy bombastic orchestral passages hasn't been done before (except from themselves!), i've never heard ambient exactly like M83's "digital shades" before and i can continue like that forever...
Ironically you labelled all these releases as "indie-rock", demonstrating your deep ignorance about music in general (at least music outside dubstep). Plus your statement that Burial's album was more forward-thinking in comparison to all these releases , was childish and laughable, first, because you haven't heard all these releases and second, because even if you have, i can't see how can you come in such "pseudo-objective" statements since as far as i know, there is no "Creativo-meter" out there (and surely a creativo-meter is not any random dubstep kid out there...). Musically speaking i assure you though that many of these releases were far more complex in relation to Burial's album. Your blind fanboyism for dubstep can be ridiculous at times... |
And this is when we realise we might be over-analysing music a little bit.
| quote: | | Furthermore, just because something is different doesn't make it of high musical quality. Burial's "untrue" or the album by the Field are great fun to listen to, but they are not outstanding pieces of musical beauty, a revelation, or anything like that...As i said before, they are great albums for what they are. |
Because this is really all that matters. Or what should matter. |
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| Gauss |
| quote: | Originally posted by julien2
Burial - Untrue was the consecration. genius work |
Sounds a lot like 2-step garage... Is it supposed to? |
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| julien2 |
| Yes. It is an homage to 2-step UK garage. |
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| Gauss |
| So... Burial - Archangel is pure bliss, but the rest of the album is rather meh. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gauss
So... Burial - Archangel is pure bliss, but the rest of the album is rather meh. |
I don't get that. I don't see why people have made Archangel into the stand-out track of the album, because it hardly deviates from the others. Untrue is not an album for me where any particular tracks stand out, but rather they work together and complement each other. |
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| Gauss |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I don't get that. I don't see why people have made Archangel into the stand-out track of the album, because it hardly deviates from the others. Untrue is not an album for me where any particular tracks stand out, but rather they work together and complement each other. |
Hm... I'm not sure, but I think it's because of the vocals... I like 'em. :) |
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