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Americans posing as Canadian abroad (pg. 4)
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alex
To be fair, the french dont like all that many countries :p
The Germans piss them off, so do the Brits as well as Quebecors (Where I'm from in Canada).
It's mostly because Quebecors speak French really really badly, but they seemed ok with me and my friends because we didn't exagerate our Quebec accents when we spoke in French. |
off..... we speak proper french ie we dont sound like fags when speaking. now acadians, i can understand why the the parisians dont like them.... those bastards on the east coast are ed..... NB is the of canada and new england is the toilet bowl.
I was in the UK back in feb and i actually had people appologize for asking me what part of the US i was from. In my experience, whenever i meet americans abroad, they come off as the most self centered arrogant and disrespectful pricks on the face of the earth. I know lots of yanks and most of them aren't half bad, and in most cases very good people with the exception of anyone from utah or arizona. The ones i meet while traveling be it for work or fun, expect teh rest of the world to look like, taste like and work like back home. It even went so far as i witnessed some fat american skank bitching out a sales clerk in a cheese shop in ortona italy because the cheese that she purchased the day before didnt taste like the cheese she was used to in the states...
PS Canadian soldiers are hard ass.... i belive we still hold the record for longest confirmed kill from a sniper. not to mention our JTF2 boys routinely mop the floor with the american special forces units during combat excercises and are internationally known as bad mother ******s. |
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| RJT |
I'm just going to let this thread continue as a vehicle for people to bitch about the worst of America and pat themselves on the back for a job they think they've done well.
I'm as tired of the international communities opinion of me as I am of half the people in my own country.
Just being an American right now you're completely ed because everyone outside our borders thinks we're all a bunch of fat-assed, ignorant douchebags who do nothing but up the rest of the world, and to the bulk of Americans I'm a crazy liberal-socialist who may as well be locked up for the things I say and my own political views.
What a crock of ing .  |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I'm just going to let this thread continue as a vehicle for people to bitch about the worst of America and pat themselves on the back for a job they think they've done well.
I'm as tired of the international communities opinion of me as I am of half the people in my own country.
Just being an American right now you're completely ed because everyone outside our borders thinks we're all a bunch of fat-assed, ignorant douchebags who do nothing but up the rest of the world, and to the bulk of Americans I'm a crazy liberal-socialist who may as well be locked up for the things I say and my own political views.
What a crock of ing . |
Get em RJT...This is good entertainment! Das, wtf are u going on about how Canada is this and that. Your patriotic and thats great, but wake up bro, seriously...your clueless. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I'm just going to let this thread continue as a vehicle for people to bitch about the worst of America and pat themselves on the back for a job they think they've done well.
I'm as tired of the international communities opinion of me as I am of half the people in my own country.
Just being an American right now you're completely ed because everyone outside our borders thinks we're all a bunch of fat-assed, ignorant douchebags who do nothing but up the rest of the world, and to the bulk of Americans I'm a crazy liberal-socialist who may as well be locked up for the things I say and my own political views.
What a crock of ing . |
Rob maybe you should move up north here and stop being such a fat-ass american pig-dog....:D Ottawa could use one more crazy liberal-socialist...... hell you could head up the NDP and become the next preston manning..... |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Not at all, and certainly not anymore sensational than you making all these outrageous claims that Canada is the responsible babysitter of the world.
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Yup that's me, I'm a Bush-voting, "We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way", "Iraq needed us to liberate it", red-blooded American.
You really need to off with that attitude if that's really how you see me and my opinions regarding American politics. Write me a paper on everything Canada has done for anyone outside its own borders and then we'll begin to talk.
I find it hilarious that so many people want to brand America the nation that does nothing for the rest of the world but it up when in truth we pump more aid/charity money into the world per capita than any other nation, hands down.
Pot, kettle, black.
Does it make you feel better to marginalize an entire nation down to such a narrow view?
Seriously, if you're going to play this whole whiny "No one understands Canada and how important it is!" game, you'd do well not to spout off a bunch of ignorant nonsense to support your own position. Every argument you've made amounts to little more than half-truths and propaganda posited in such a way that it makes Canadanians sound like they're doing far more in the world than they actually are.
When people talk about the superpowers of the world, they don't talk about Canada's influence on global politics - and it isn't the rest of us ignoring you that's to blame. It's the fact that you really haven't done much outside of maybe being worthy of a "best supporting role" nomination.
And even that is a stretch.
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Yup, that's about right. :stongue: |
You started this whole, my country VS your country , which is completely outside the scope of the thread.
I never said we were the responsible babysitters of the world, I never said you do nothing but up, I never said anything about the global importance of Canada politically. What I said is that we have a unique national identity, which you clearly don't understand or recognise. Where are the half-truths? Where is the propaganda?
This isn't about why we're so great and your not and blah, blah, blah...it's about American citizens pretending to be Canadians and how I disapprove of such a practice in principle. Canadians have a reputation in the world, and that reputation is altered by Americans, acting like Americans, in Canadian disguise.
That reputation would be altered by Australians, acting Australian, in Canadian disguise.
My point is that for a nation with such deep patriotism, it amazes me that you so easily cheapen yourselves by concealing your nationality the second the plane leaves the ground.
Nobody is denying your contributions to the world or your role as a superpower, but what a shame so many of your people are not only embarassed or afraid to wear your flag abroad, but actually go out of thier way to pretend they're Canadian.
Now I'm off to tap a maple tree... |
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| MeLLyMeL |
i'm just here for the weather.
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
Rob maybe you should move up north here and stop being such a fat-ass american pig-dog....:D Ottawa could use one more crazy liberal-socialist...... hell you could head up the NDP and become the next preston manning..... |
I want to be totally clear: I absolutely love Canada. I think your social welfare system is maybe the best in the world outside of Sweden's, I think that in general the way you have carried yourselves throughout your time as an independent nation has been nothing short of spectacular (insofar as you do a good job of remaining OUT of conflicts in which you have no quarrel), and in general you have some of the nicest metropolitan cities I have ever seen.
That being said, I still think it's completely ludicrous to try to make the claim that Canada has really had all that big a positive impact outside its own borders, especially compared to a nation that has simply had a longer period of time and more money to shell out.
And nothing s me off more than people seeing only what they want to in American foreign policy, because beyond the last ten years we have put an immense amount of effort into international charitable efforts and human rights. Is the U.S. the model for international policy for the world? Absolutely not, but we're also not so bad as a bulk of the rest of the world seems to want to label us.
It's been a bad decade, mistakes (massive, near unforgivable mistakes) have been made, and due to that people are more than welcome to write all of us off however they'd like to - just don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, you know? |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, you know? |
i really hope you wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for the old "piss on the leg rain storm" trick......... |
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| GTS3gEclipse |
| I'm not your buddy, friend. |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I want to be totally clear: I absolutely love Canada. I think your social welfare system is maybe the best in the world outside of Sweden's, I think that in general the way you have carried yourselves throughout your time as an independent nation has been nothing short of spectacular (insofar as you do a good job of remaining OUT of conflicts in which you have no quarrel), and in general you have some of the nicest metropolitan cities I have ever seen.
That being said, I still think it's completely ludicrous to try to make the claim that Canada has really had all that big a positive impact outside its own borders, especially compared to a nation that has simply had a longer period of time and more money to shell out.
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This is exactly what I mean by 'Canadian Identity'. I'm not making outrageous claims about our global impact - in fact I don't think I cited any specific achievements in my first post at all, save to point out that we developed as a nation in our own right during the first half of the century - what I am saying is that it suprises me and pisses me off that a people as proud as the Americans are hiding behind our flag when abroad. That's all. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
You started this whole, my country VS your country , which is completely outside the scope of the thread.
I never said we were the responsible babysitters of the world, I never said you do nothing but up, I never said anything about the global importance of Canada politically. What I said is that we have a unique national identity, which you clearly don't understand or recognise. Where are the half-truths? Where is the propaganda? |
BOOM, propaganda (with nothing to back it up, no less):
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
During WWI, Canadians were the go-to guys for tough assignments, jobs other had tried and failed to accomplish. Canadian soldiers developed a reputation for being the baddest motherfcukers on the block.
In WWII, Canadians fought with distinction; again capturing difficult targets and helping rid the world of tyrrany. Fighting alongside British, American, French, Australian and other allied forces to bring down the axis of evil.
Canada stepped up to answer the call in Korea, the often forgotten Canadian war.
Since Korea, the Caniadian identity shifted to that of a peacekeeping nation, soldiers of peace and justice.
Our role in the world as a moral compass and trusted proxy has been perverted lately because of our new right-wing government, but remains an understood part of our social identity.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Shall we just hand Afghanistan back over to your control, then? See if you can manage that AND Iraq all by your lonesome.
Or let's see...Cyprus, East Timor, The former Yugoslavia, Gaza...etc.
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And here's you picking fights (as well as name-calling) regarding the whole "me vs. you" assertion (and at the very least making some absurd generalizations):
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
You talk about being the world's police force (the politics of which I won't get into) and the defenders of democracy in the world, but hide behind the skirt of your Northern neighbour to avoid public opinion. Where is your pride then?Are you only proud to be American when talking to other Americans? Why the fairweather patriotism? Don't you find it insulting to the country you love so much, or your much-revered forefathers to not only conceal, but misrepresent your nationality?
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| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
How about just plain, old you.
This, right here, this attitude is why you are so lamented around the world. You have no respect for anyone else. It's all, 'thank god for the USA because we're the only ones in the world making a difference'. You have no concept of what 'Canadian identity' is, and no desire to find out. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Maybe it seems that way to a country so hell-bent on interfering in the politics of the world.
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| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
This isn't about why we're so great and your not and blah, blah, blah...it's about American citizens pretending to be Canadians and how I disapprove of such a practice in principle. Canadians have a reputation in the world, and that reputation is altered by Americans, acting like Americans, in Canadian disguise.
That reputation would be altered by Australians, acting Australian, in Canadian disguise.
My point is that for a nation with such deep patriotism, it amazes me that you so easily cheapen yourselves by concealing your nationality the second the plane leaves the ground.
Nobody is denying your contributions to the world or your role as a superpower, but what a shame so many of your people are not only embarassed or afraid to wear your flag abroad, but actually go out of thier way to pretend they're Canadian.
Now I'm off to tap a maple tree... |
You're the one who made it about why you think you're so great as a nation, not I. You've also made it a point to keep telling me what I do, when you clearly haven't the foggiest.
In summary, I made a playful jab at you and you took it and ran with it. Oh well, not my problem if internet hurts peoples feelings at times. |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
Get em RJT...This is good entertainment! Das, wtf are u going on about how Canada is this and that. Your patriotic and thats great, but wake up bro, seriously...your clueless. |
Elaborate, please.
Reiterate for me what I said Canada is, and how I went wrong.
And it's okay to use small words.:) |
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