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Infinity (pg. 16)
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| Fpcookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I'll also add that for every track you have, there are 6 out of 12 keys you can mix harmonically with (my basic understanding, perhaps there is more if youre tricky). So, all things being equal, that's HALF of your collection. Not as limiting as people try to make it. |
there are 24 keys in total, 4 of which create a perfect harmony. mixing into the same key, its relative major or minor, and its dominant/subdominant.
seriously, if i could stand not mixing harmonically i would do it. i dont think its fun going through keying all my tracks but i just cant stand the dissonance that occurs MOST OF THE TIME when mixing out of key. it just sounds wrong to me.
yes you can "snap" mix so you dont get melody clashes but i dont want to be doing that all the time.
just because you key your tunes doesnt mean you always have to mix in key. like i said before, if you know 2 tunes work well together that are out of key just because there's letters written on your CD doesnt mean you cant mix them together. but its pretty much impossible to know how every one of your tracks mixes with one another. knowing the key is just a guide.
DJ'ing is so subjective and so up to personal taste and people do everything differently. what works for one person might not work for another, and vice versa. i dont think harmonic mixing is essential because some of my favourtite sets arent mixed harmonically and some of my favourite djs dont mix harmonically (that fag called bateman) but for me personally when im mixing most of the time harmonic mixing just sounds right. |
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| Fpcookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
I hate to disappoint you mang but 98% of the people you're playing for would never notice the difference. |
definitely agree with this.
but im in the same boat at pkc. I can hear the difference in the cans and it just irks me. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fpcookie
there are 24 keys in total, 4 of which create a perfect harmony. mixing into the same key, its relative major or minor, and its dominant/subdominant. |
i can count the amount of majors in my (trance) collection on two hands ;) indeed, i treat majors as their relative minor simply because the difference (to me) is so small when mixing.
so, on the wonderful wheel, you have: same key, +1, -1, +4, -3, +7.
yes, there are times when any of those rules might not work, but that's the DJs job to work around.
| quote: | Originally posted by Fpcookie
just because you key your tunes doesnt mean you always have to mix in key. |
which is the point i think people keep ignoring. its a guide, which you can break at any point you choose :) |
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| batemanscott |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fpcookie
DJ'ing is so subjective and so up to personal taste and people do everything differently. what works for one person might not work for another, and vice versa. right. |
Agree with you completely here mate :D |
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| Aesthetic |
also you guys are missing the point. dj's arent musicians
they're date rapists |
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| Anomyst |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
also you guys are missing the point. dj's arent musicians
they're date rapists |
ah man, better change my position description! |
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| batemanscott |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aesthetic
also you guys are missing the point. dj's arent musicians
they're date rapists |
and business is good ... ;) |
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| dan_essential |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Fpcookie DJ'ing is so subjective and so up to personal taste and people do everything differently. what works for one person might not work for another, and vice versa. |
Well put; even with feedback, your own personal style is what can work best :toocool: |
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| mmkoiman |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
in that case ive got bad news for you bateman: techno sucks the wang! :toothless
LOL. "key mixing isn't essential but i do it most of the time anyway".
just coz youre not writing the key of your tunes on the sleeve doesn't mean youre not key mixing ;)
yeah i know! just like those stupid singers that feel the necessity to sing in tune/key! what a waste of time! |
mate, misinterpret what I said if you want, I'm just stating that I've never consciously gone into a mix/set with the intention to keymix - over time you should do it naturally for some or most transitions without having to think about it.. at no time am I governed by the 'rules' of HAVING to mix every tune in key..
you are right tho, there are a number of keys that match up with other - it's not like only G minor tunes will match G minor tunes.. having said that, I don't understand the complexities behind music keys - this is just based on what I understand..
and you're comparing singing in key to DJing in key? well done.. that's like comparing sailing a boat to eating a brick. |
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| Anomyst |
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
and business is good ... ;) |
yep i dont think your mum remembers any of it! |
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| batemanscott |
| quote: | Originally posted by Anomyst
yep i dont think your mum remembers any of it! |
she was paid a visit by the rohypnol fairy. :toothless |
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