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any of yall have bipolar disorder? (pg. 11)
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Right, and I think that was her point. |
and I get her point. But if cost is a topic, the costs of building hundreds or thousands of facilties should come into play. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
I was specifically talking about those who's mental illnesses are manifested AFTER they partake in drug abuse... self induced.... NOT those who just have mental illnesses to begin with. |
How does that make any difference? someone is no less insane because they engaged in drug abuse. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
and I get her point. But if cost is a topic, the costs of building hundreds or thousands of facilties should come into play. |
Hell, sounds like it would have been a good target for the stimulus money - providing better healthcare + jobs = win. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
How does that make any difference? someone is no less insane because they engaged in drug abuse. |
Drug use/abuse is often a trigger to sending people over the edge and/or bringing out certain disorders that are lying dormant. Perhaps if they didn't go down that road by choice, they would be a hell of a lot less likely to commit the crimes that land them in jail (aside from the drug offense). |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Just because drugs are often the catalyst for people with mental illnesses, it doesn't mean those people aren't still sick, dude. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Hell, sounds like it would have been a good target for the stimulus money - providing better healthcare + jobs = win. |
One minute I want to kill you, the next I'm agreeing with you. WTF. I would have gladly seen the $50 million for the National Endowment of Arts and $726 million for an afterschool snack program in the stimulus bill go to funding new mental health care facilities. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Just because drugs are often the catalyst for people with mental illnesses, it doesn't mean those people aren't still sick, dude. |
yeah I know... but the word "exacerbate" comes to mind. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Drug use/abuse is often a trigger to sending people over the edge and/or bringing out certain disorders that are lying dormant. Perhaps if they didn't go down that road by choice, they would be a hell of a lot less likely to commit the crimes that land them in jail (aside from the drug offense). |
That’s akin to saying people that don’t wear seatbelts shouldn’t expect medical care after a car accident. Not to mention that I would hardly hold up the US’ penal code as something to be emulated in the context of it being a fair yardstick for judging what is “right” or “wrong”. Its silly to argue that someone suffering schizophrenia should be put in prison because they “brought it on themselves” whereas another sufferer can go to a mental health institution because their schizophrenia was brought on completely drug-free. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
One minute I want to kill you, the next I'm agreeing with you. WTF. |
i always agreed with lebez. Until I learned he was black AND Christian, and now its leaving a nasty taste in my mouth :tongue2 |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
yeah I know... but the word "exacerbate" comes to mind. |
That's irrelevant, why do you not get that? The issue at hand is America's supposedly poor care of mentally ill people.
It doesn't matter how they became mentally ill. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i always agreed with lebez. Until I learned he was black AND Christian, and now its leaving a nasty taste in my mouth :tongue2 |
:stongue: :stongue: |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
yeah I know... but the word "exacerbate" comes to mind. |
So? Lots of things exacerbate mental illness. |
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