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any of yall have bipolar disorder? (pg. 8)
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chlola
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Originally posted by Mattsanity
I do, and it's a sad state to live in. it's not something you can snap out of overnight. this has destroyed my life, and E or liquor wont ing help.


+1

The root of addiction is, Pain.
I suspect the same of 'mental illness'.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by chlola
+1

The root of addiction is, Pain.
I suspect the same of 'mental illness'.


So, you think that pain causes mental illness? Really?
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by The17sss
Exactly- which is why you have little credibility talking about things in America that you don't really know about (and trying to make a partisan issue of it). Our country gives more overall dollars and has more taxpayer funded social programs for the mentally ill than any other country, I'd be willing to bet. Every state has scores of facilities for that stuff. How in the heck can you say the U.S. doesn't take care of it's mentally ill? What are you looking for, Utopia? There's only so much you can do... the bulk of people with severe mental disorders can only be helped to a point, and can't be expected to morph into rational, productive members of society anyway.


yeah, whatever you reckon champ.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/asylums/
chlola
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
So, you think that pain causes mental illness? Really?


Unresolved mental pain, of course.
Are you being sarcastic?:sadgreen:
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by chlola
Unresolved mental pain, of course.
Are you being sarcastic?:sadgreen:


No sarcasm, I was genuinely questioning whether you really beleived that.

How then, would you explain children being born with mental illnesses? Unresolved mental pain? Come on.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
No sarcasm, I was genuinely questioning whether you really beleived that.

How then, would you explain children being born with mental illnesses? Unresolved mental pain? Come on.


clearly, he's suffering from unresolved bullter pain.
Lira
Ah, how I missed the Aussies from this board :p

Sometimes I think that even if I say that "mental illness is part of God's plan", and ask them to prove me wrong, they may actually do prove me wrong :D
The17sss
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
No sarcasm, I was genuinely questioning whether you really beleived that.

How then, would you explain children being born with mental illnesses? Unresolved mental pain? Come on.


He's right dude. Lots of people who develop multiple personality disorders or dissociative disorders (fugue or identity), or even PTSD as a better example.... unresolved mental pain is certainly linked to some of those diagnoses (ie severe verbal and mental abuse on the person at a young age from parents can lead them to "detach").

As for children being born with mental illness, you're talking about apples and oranges. Sometimes heredity plays as much or more of a role than external stressors or just plan bad luck.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by The17sss
He's right dude. Lots of people who develop multiple personality disorders or dissociative disorders (fugue or identity), or even PTSD as a better example.... unresolved mental pain is certainly linked to some of those diagnoses (ie severe verbal and mental abuse on the person at a young age from parents can lead them to "detach").


or such problems (not really PTSD) can manifest themselves simply due to a biological abnormality.
The17sss
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
or such problems (not really PTSD) can manifest themselves simply due to a biological abnormality.


this is true... usually the diagnosis has to meet multiple criteria.

Sushipunk
quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
He's right dude. Lots of people who develop multiple personality disorders or dissociative disorders (fugue or identity), or even PTSD as a better example.... unresolved mental pain is certainly linked to some of those diagnoses (ie severe verbal and mental abuse on the person at a young age from parents can lead them to "detach").

As for children being born with mental illness, you're talking about apples and oranges. Sometimes heredity plays as much or more of a role than external stressors or just plan bad luck.


PTSD is a good point to bring up, but I would still argue that there is some pre-disposition to it. There have been too many cases (mostly accosiated with war) where multiple people have witnessed the same event(s) that would contribute to the disorder, but only some of the people involved have suffered PTSD.
Domesticated
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
PTSD is a good point to bring up, but I would still argue that there is some pre-disposition to it. There have been too many cases (mostly accosiated with war) where multiple people have witnessed the same event(s) that would contribute to the disorder, but only some of the people involved have suffered PTSD.


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