Originally posted by EgosXII
luckily as you said they actually are well made, my favourite non-smartphone was the Samsung D600... that phone was ing Awesome. :)
I had a D600...built like a brick. had it from 2005/6-2008 when i upgraded to iphone 2G.
Handed it down to my sister when her LG crapped out after she dropped it once. NOw my mum has it.
Was disappointed after upgrading to iphone and realizing it didn't have flash, descent camera, bluetooth, configurations, crappy speaker.
EgosXII
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Originally posted by digitalbreach
I had a D600...built like a brick. had it from 2005/6-2008 when i upgraded to iphone 2G.
Handed it down to my sister when her LG crapped out after she dropped it once. NOw my mum has it.
Was disappointed after upgrading to iphone and realizing it didn't have flash, descent camera, bluetooth, configurations, crappy speaker.
haha yeah, one of my mates only upgraded from his last year, had it for 4 years or something :eyes:
such a mad phone: Only problem was it can't vibrate and ring at the same time... :mad:
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by EgosXII
haha yeah, one of my mates only upgraded from his last year, had it for 4 years or something :eyes:
such a mad phone: Only problem was it can't vibrate and ring at the same time... :mad:
It could, but only if you hacked it.
EgosXII
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
It could, but only if you hacked it.
damn, didn't know nothing about that stuff back then :(
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by EgosXII
damn, didn't know nothing about that stuff back then :(
Yeah, that is the problem. Lots of Motorolas have that same issue, but you can enable it if you do the right stuff.
Fledz
If there's one thing that will prevent me from getting Android (apart from still inferior apps), it's the fact that they still haven't addressed the issue of not providing real-time low latency for mainly music programs.
Google needs to get off their ass so I can have a sweet app like this on an Android rather than an iPhone (which has brilliant 10ms latency compared to Androids 100ms):
EDIT - Apparently they are working on it in 2.2 but still not as well as they should be and the input/output targets are 50/45ms. Not bloody good enough :whip:
Sushipunk
Music programs/synths on a phone. Let me just say that again: Music programs/synths on a PHONE.
And this is your reason for not getting an Android phone?
If people are writing music on their phones, then I'm sorry, that is not music I want to listen to :p
EgosXII
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Originally posted by Fledz
If there's one thing that will prevent me from getting Android (apart from still inferior apps), it's the fact that they still haven't addressed the issue of not providing real-time low latency for mainly music programs.
Google needs to get off their ass so I can have a sweet app like this on an Android rather than an iPhone (which has brilliant 10ms latency compared to Androids 100ms):
EDIT - Apparently they are working on it in 2.2 but still not as well as they should be and the input/output targets are 50/45ms. Not bloody good enough :whip:
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Originally posted by Sushipunk
Music programs/synths on a phone. Let me just say that again: Music programs/synths on a PHONE.
And this is your reason for not getting an Android phone?
If people are writing music on their phones, then I'm sorry, that is not music I want to listen to :p
THIS.
I actually have an ipod touch cause i like the apps, and the music ones are fun, but i really cannot imagine any of them being capable of anything serious...
I could see the iPad being used a bit more serious because of the wifi-midi functionality with apps like TouchOSC which is sweet, but the app is still pretty much unusable on the tiny screen of the ipodtouch/phone...
I do actually agree fledz that it's the area of the app store where android sucks anus, but yeah, it's not that much of an issue that i would get myself stuck with a phone
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by EgosXII
I could see the iPad being used a bit more serious
I agree. The size of the screen alone, with the right app could make it an incredibly useful tool, especially in music production. Like the Jazzmutant Lemur.
But not a phone with a ~4 inch screen. Even the Streak I would consider to be rather useless in that department.
Size matters, baby.
Fledz
It's not just music though, it's all audio. VOIP included, games, etc.
It's an area that they need to improve on.
Also, it's not just about making music on the run, it's about using your phone as an extra controller for your PC/MAC software, or live DJ gear.
And music? Did you not listen to the audio example?
Also, how much easier is it to jot down ideas like this than try and remember it in your head or write notes on a piece of paper?
Go back to your birds amatuer :mad:
EgosXII
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Originally posted by Fledz
It's not just music though, it's all audio. VOIP included, games, etc.
It's an area that they need to improve on.
Also, it's not just about making music on the run, it's about using your phone as an extra controller for your PC/MAC software, or live DJ gear.
And music? Did you not listen to the audio example?
Also, how much easier is it to jot down ideas like this than try and remember it in your head or write notes on a piece of paper?
Go back to your birds amatuer :mad:
:stongue: :stongue:
FEVER RAMBLINGS I TELLS YA!!!
for music in general that's true, music playback even on the android isn't quite as nice as the itouch, but once again: Everything else is so much better it's a negligible difference imo... BUT, it would be nice to have that fixed: Android would be ultimate if it had top range music capabilities :)
that aside, jotting down notes is just as hard, most apps don't support export to midi, and the sequencer, midi programing apps i've seen are aweful, piece of paper would be better every time imo... I havn't tried the one you posted though, just checked and it's 20bucks, with no trial version, so doubt i will be trying it either :p
if you have an iphone, the best music app i've found is prochords, it's a music theory app which lets you figure out chord progressions (so if you start in Cmajor, it lists all the chords which fit well with the Cmajor)...
i think you can even email the midi to yourself
all the other apps i've found are really hard to use on the screen, all the drum-machines and sequencers etc
on a big screen they would be fun, but even then, as stu said, unless it's simply for midi triggering (it's made the lemur obsolete), you might as well just wait till you can get to a comp
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by Fledz
It's not just music though, it's all audio. VOIP included, games, etc.
It's an area that they need to improve on.
Also, it's not just about making music on the run, it's about using your phone as an extra controller for your PC/MAC software, or live DJ gear.
And music? Did you not listen to the audio example?
Also, how much easier is it to jot down ideas like this than try and remember it in your head or write notes on a piece of paper?
Go back to your birds amatuer :mad:
At music production, I was never anything but an amateur :p
Ok, Android needs to improve on stuff. It's a newer platform that Apple's OS, give it some time.
I still snigger at the idea of using it as some kind of controller though, for production/DJ software. If you're serious about that , and need a controller, then you'll drop a few hundred bucks (cheaper than a smartphone!) on a proper midi controller, that will do a FAR better job.
I agree, though, that it would be handy to be able to jot down ideas on the run.
