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| PivotTechno |
And anyone who gives a rats ass about personal freedoms should at least be emailing their MP to ask why the government is violating the Canadian Charter by attempting to dictate where and when the G20 protestors will be permitted to assemble.
Find your MP by Postal Code:
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/parlinfo/Com...e.aspx?Menu=HOC |
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| Brennen |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
This protest would be incredibly effective if:
- it carried a unified message (something along the lines of "government responsibility, accountability and transparency for the people the government claims to represent")
- it was absolutely peaceful in nature - anyone instigating violence on the side of the protestors should be removed immediately and handed over to the authorities
- the people exercise their right to Peaceful Assembly, by marching en masse to the site of the Summit, and not providing resistance should security retaliate in a violent manner
- the Summit allowed for the participation of an independent people's representative, someone permitted to be present at all meetings in order to be able to voice the chosen unified message to the other representatives
Unfortunately, you're more than a little correct in your assertion. Attempting to confine the protests to Trinity-Bellwoods will do little more than fan the flames of resentment among protesters, increasing the likelihood of violence. However, sitting at home and doing nothing sends the message that your so-called elected officials are free to continue conducting business that will ultimately affect your way of life, behind closed doors, without you having any say in the matter whatsoever. |
What they are doing about the protesters is called "Kettling" I wouldn't be surprised if they sent in provocateurs to give off the image that we are violent |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
- the Summit allowed for the participation of an independent people's representative, someone permitted to be present at all meetings in order to be able to voice the chosen unified message to the other representatives |
This. |
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| Skipper |
I laughed at this...what are we, China?
That said, I live across the street from the fence and sort of don't mind that people's democratic rights are being trampled on. |
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| Anas Attia |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Brennen |
nvm you called as I posted this ;) |
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| Time2Burn |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Please...
Do you think that these protests actually produce any results???
Canadians are a bunch of sheep because they don't have the balls to stand up for change in the effective but difficult way... BY VOTING FOR IT!!!
These stupid little protests accomplish nothing but give the mounted police something to do... |
I don't know haven't we had several elections in the last number of years with the same result? Seems to me the sheep are the ones who beleive that voting can cause any real change.
People do have the right to voice their opinion and if anything at least express views not heard in the mainstream media.
And if you think protest accomplishes nothing you skipped way too many history classes. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
I laughed at this...what are we, China?
That said, I live across the street from the fence and sort of don't mind that people's democratic rights are being trampled on. |
finally we see eye to eye ;) (sort of...aside from the NIMBY part ;) ) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
And anyone who gives a rats ass about personal freedoms should at least be emailing their MP to ask why the government is violating the Canadian Charter by attempting to dictate where and when the G20 protestors will be permitted to assemble.
Find your MP by Postal Code:
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/parlinfo/Com...e.aspx?Menu=HOC |
they dictate this stuff daily... go downtown with a handful of club flyers and see how far you get.
its disgusting |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
freedom of speech?
Canada? LOL!
lets see.....
Ersnt Zundel
George Galloway
Anne Coulter
and my personal experience:
no passing of flyers allowed on public street
Freedom of speech in this country is an illusion to most in Canada |
Not just Canada. Freedom of speech is an illusion in most of the western world. But as they say: if you keep repeating something sooner or later the sheep will start believing it, even though it's not true. |
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| Anas Attia |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Not just Canada. Freedom of speech is an illusion in most of the western world. But as they say: if you keep repeating something sooner or later the sheep will start believing it, even though it's not true. |
Some other countries at least know they don't have freedom of speech ha ha |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by PivotTechno
Again, in most cases it isn't the so-called hippies that start the trouble. There's plenty of documented footage showing police/security infiltrators instigating violence in order to justify their own violent actions.
According to the Canadian Charter we have the right to Freedom of Peaceful Assembly, which means that protestors should be able to stand right at the steps of the Convention Centre, if they so please. Do you not see anything wrong with the fact that this fundamental right is being summarily taken away?
And quite telling that you take pleasure in seeing violence inflicted on the very people who have the wherewithal to stand up for those rights, which are in fact your rights. |
problem is, rarely do I see any of these protests being totally peaceful. when I see a mass protest, I don't see a legit protest anymore. I see a mob that has very little organization and dont even know what they are protesting.
seems to me that a lot of them are for sake of protesting, or to stir trouble up. now these people may be a minority, but they are the ones shaping the public perception of what these protests are about nowadays
generally i'm in favour of orderly society, where disturbing isn't the only way to get attention. having lived in a country where mass protests are common, and grew up smelling tear gasses way too frequently, I am totally turned off by mob tactics a lot of mass protests turn into.
and i find it funny personally that you're preaching to me about standing up for my rights. clearly you don't know me at all |
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| Yohan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
what exactly are they protesting at the summit? |
lol. i've wondered about these for years. and has any of these protests done anything to change the public perception or politicians agenda? |
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