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more *******ing about 'tech house' and 'grand theft culture' (pg. 14)
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nefardec
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Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
i would be willing to bet that all of these american house legends make the majority of their money in the european markets.;)


ok, obviously, but so do european and israeli (and american, etc) thieves...
mehta
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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
WTF are you talking about?


for example the acumen track "nyc" with the spoken-word "new york city" sample that repeats throughout the track

makes it unplayable for me anyway
chesco
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Originally posted by nefardec
ok, obviously, but so do european and israeli (and american, etc) thieves...


I respect you for your musical knowledge but, a lot of the time I think you put far too much emphasis on this skin colour thing..
nefardec
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Originally posted by chesco
I respect you for your musical knowledge but, a lot of the time I think you put far too much emphasis on this skin colour thing..


yeah, i know i am being rather polemical. someone should here, though.
nefardec
this tshirt seems somehow appropriately inappropriate


http://hipsterhitler.com/t-shirt-store/



also i managed to track down a copy of the book 'love & theft' that konijn recommend early in the thread, so i'll probably be back after i finish that..
mehta
quote:
Originally posted by mehta
for example the acumen track "nyc" with the spoken-word "new york city" sample that repeats throughout the track

makes it unplayable for me anyway


ok I take it back, this is a cool track. people in europe go bananas for american references.

Eric Lott is good at explaining this kind of racism and appropriation. good suggestion and highly relevant ... but his point that it demonstrates some appreciation or love for the culture is especially important here.

nice thread nefardec :)
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by mehta
people in europe go bananas for american references!


I've never seen anyone give the slightest about them.
mehta
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I've never seen anyone give the slightest about them.


sarcasm from J??

you can't be serious :wtf:

edit:

I think it's a more general thing, not at all restricted to dance music. And of course not all europeans, that's a horrible generalization. But think about the way Native American culture is displayed and abused in Germany - for me this is the most obvious example
Beats and Beeps
what exactly is tech house?
Light The Fuse
a combination of techno and house - i know its weird that they named it tech-house and it defies all logic - but hey thats what they called it, go figure.

SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by mehta
sarcasm from J??

you can't be serious :wtf:


I'm not being sarcastic. You think people over here lose their when they hear some time-stretched vocal snippet about NYC or Detroit? Even more generally, American culture is so ubiquitous and pervasive that people find it commonplace, even boring.

I don't really know about a German obsession with Native American culture, but I'd imagine that's got more to with New Age cultural cannibalism than anything relevant to this thread.
djnitride
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm not being sarcastic. You think people over here lose their when they hear some time-stretched vocal snippet about NYC or Detroit? Even more generally, American culture is so ubiquitous and pervasive that people find it commonplace, even boring.


As an American, I completely agree with this.
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