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this isn't chill-out material. serious stuff here, guys (pg. 9)
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by sixth seal
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Sixth Seal, my $0.02 (as one of the few people who won't entirely dismiss you as being a total ass and great annoyance); you need to re-think your approach. If you really do believe in the Christian tradition, hold to the teachings of Jesus (note: Jesus, not some guy in an arena telling you what Jesus wants you to do), and you're presently trying to satisfy your apostolic mission to bring your brothers and sisters to salvation then you're doing it all wrong. You've acknowledged that you meet with resistance frequently; that should be a sign. You cannot berate people and threaten them to belief, as the human response to such behaviour is to resist. A more effective method would be to simply live the message of love and peace that you claim to hold dear and wish to share. Those who are ready to receive your message will seek it because your example will show the worth of your belief. In the end, whether or not people believe in God and/or attend church is immaterial... it's how we live that matters. |
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| sixth seal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Oh man... not the "web bots" thing. Do you understand how that program works? |
yes i'm aware of how the web bot works. like i tried to make clear in previous posts, i'm hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
keeping an open mind is the wise thing to do.
goodnight. |
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| gazelles |
conversations about school, work, religion, politics, and the weather are so dry and boring, no matter how rowdy and worked up people get
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| sixth seal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Sixth Seal, my $0.02 (as one of the few people who won't entirely dismiss you as being a total ass and great annoyance); you need to re-think your approach. If you really do believe in the Christian tradition, hold to the teachings of Jesus (note: Jesus, not some guy in an arena telling you what Jesus wants you to do), and you're presently trying to satisfy your apostolic mission to bring your brothers and sisters to salvation then you're doing it all wrong. You've acknowledged that you meet with resistance frequently; that should be a sign. You cannot berate people and threaten them to belief, as the human response to such behaviour is to resist. A more effective method would be to simply live the message of love and peace that you claim to hold dear and wish to share. Those who are ready to receive your message will seek it because your example will show the worth of your belief. In the end, whether or not people believe in God and/or attend church is immaterial... it's how we live that matters. |
jesus was never once without resistance while he lived on this planet.
goodnight |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by sixth seal
yes. and i know what you're gonna say.
"well you would look pretty stupid if you fully believe in god and you find out he doesn't exist."
ok. great one. didn't see that coming.
now, let's stay on topic. |
Wrong. I was going to say that you don't fully believe in the prophecies, yet you fully believe in God. Why? What undeniable proof do you have he/she/it exists?
I'm not an atheist so I'm not going to say there isn't a higher power, but I'm intelligent enough to know that it's not in the form that any current religion seems to think it is. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by pozz
if Jesus is the Son of God, it means God abandoned himself on the cross. |
Just a point of clarification... in Christian theology Jesus is not actually the son of God, as we would normally think of the word "son"; rather, Jesus is God. It gets all kinds of complicated and isn't really something that translates well into an internet chat (at least of the length I have time for); however, to put it simply... God elects to take the form of a human, is born as human, named Jesus, dies on the cross, returns to being God. He is rightly deemed the son of god in the same sense that we all are children of God (in Christian theology), he is also rightly deemed the son of man in that he was physically born human. Then we get into the whole holy-trinity thing of three manifestations of the same diety and blah, blah, blah, you don't really care.... but for the sake of your attempted jab above; your understanding of the whole God-Jesus relationship thing is entirely inconsistant with Christian theology; subsequently, your attempt at a clever jab will have zero impact on any Christian. If you want to try and take clever swipes you should take the time to dig a little deeper as there are way better holes to poke at. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by sixth seal
jesus was never once without resistance while he lived on this planet.
goodnight |
Indeed; however, Jesus also didn't seek to frighten people to follow his teachings; rather, he simply taught and lived a message of love and union with God. You would be well served to follow his example.
Although I disagree with your methods (and your, apparently, flawed iterpretation of our faith) I wish you well. |
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
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that would be awesome, if i knew anything about technology outside the world of gaming :p
just throw a few loose phrases, like the weak inheriting the earth and no rich men go to heaven. we could be on the road to easy money! |
Well, we have about 6 months to set the site up and make it known to people that believe in such things. Hell people actually fall for those nigerian scams, and this one is much more credible in the eyes of the faithful for who would atualy dare to mock god by setting up something like this :D
Then with our new found riches we can blow every conspiracy thorists mind by funding the new world order! |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
there are way better holes to poke at. |
jesus' anus? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
jesus' anus? |
I was thinking your mom's but whatever floats your boat.
edit: , "yo' mamma" jokes... Jenny's rubbing off on me. *insert facepalm here* |
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| Capitalizt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Just a point of clarification... in Christian theology Jesus is not actually the son of God, as we would normally think of the word "son"; rather, Jesus is God. It gets all kinds of complicated and isn't really something that translates well into an internet chat (at least of the length I have time for); however, to put it simply... God elects to take the form of a human, is born as human, named Jesus, dies on the cross, returns to being God. |
I think I can summarize it into a form that fits well with internet chat..
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| Comrade Stalin |
| Sixth seal, doesn't it bother you that everyone but you is going to hell. Most notably, other monotheists, who believe in God, but just not Christianity. That's pretty ed up for a supposedly loving god. The fact that truly religious, God-fearing, God-seeking people, are still condemned to hell because they didn't believe a certain way. That's pretty ed up dude. If I'm a Muslim, you're the one whose going to hell. |
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