|
Andy Blueman throws in the towel for trance (pg. 3)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
his remixes of Serenity. |
I made it to mark 4:27, i did not enjoy that track.
I already forgot how it went lol, i only remember alot of strings and rvrb...
Gotta admit he has better potential for other genres. |
|
|
| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
I made it to mark 4:27, i did not enjoy that track.
I already forgot how it went lol, i only remember alot of strings and rvrb...
Gotta admit he has better potential for other genres. |
It seems like he would do better in a genre that isn't focused on dancing. |
|
|
| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by ken_lee
people who say what they are going to do always fail at doing it, its almost a rule of thumb. he is an ass not knowing this. |
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jpl2cTDtbc
If you're going to talk out of your ass at least make it look like you know anything about the artist you're bashing
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
What's the difference between writing for percussion and song writing? |
I'm not implying there is one, but why do all trance songs have to have a good pulse? Why would anyone listen to a track that's so clearly meant to focus on melodies and arrangement and think "well, the beat is boring, this sucks".
I also think people are seriously confusing muddiness with dense arrangement. Just because you can't very clearly hear every element like you would be able to in a typical dance track doesn't mean it's a fault. Why are trance artists not allowed to make tracks that are essentially a wall of sound? Just because it's not what it used to be or because it sounds different doesn't make it inherently wrong and that's what nobody seems to get. I've repeated myself about this so many times, I don't know what it's going to take for people to embrace change. |
|
|
| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jpl2cTDtbc
If you're going to talk out of your ass at least make it look like you know anything about the artist you're bashing
I'm not implying there is one, but why do all trance songs have to have a good pulse? Why would anyone listen to a track that's so clearly meant to focus on melodies and arrangement and think "well, the beat is boring, this sucks".
I also think people are seriously confusing muddiness with dense arrangement. Just because you can't very clearly hear every element like you would be able to in a typical dance track doesn't mean it's a fault. Why are trance artists not allowed to make tracks that are essentially a wall of sound? Just because it's not what it used to be or because it sounds different doesn't make it inherently wrong and that's what nobody seems to get. I've repeated myself about this so many times, I don't know what it's going to take for people to embrace change. |
You're making songs for a genre that revolves around dancing. Even if you don't dance, there is still that appeal of groove. If you really wanted to just listen to melodies you could obviously pick a different genre.
In general, muddiness and a cluster of instruments sounds newbish. |
|
|
| Kysora |
| This music clearly isn't made to be danced to so I'm not really sure why people continue to judge it as if it was, or if it's supposed to be. |
|
|
| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
This music clearly isn't made to be danced to so I'm not really sure why people continue to judge it as if it was, or if it's supposed to be. |
If that's the case, why bother with percs at all? |
|
|
| Mr.Mystery |
| Three pages and I still don't know who this person is or why I should care. |
|
|
| Viber |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Three pages and I still don't know who this person is or why I should care. |
Stop acting cool, you know who Andy Blueman is - that is why you don't care about him. |
|
|
| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Three pages and I still don't know who this person is |
Sorry, were we supposed to explain who he is? He's a Slovenian uplifting trance producer that more or less perfected breakdowns and became a huge success in the last 2 or 3 years
| quote: | | or why I should care. |
Well you kind of answered that yourself. You don't know who he is, so why care?
Strange that you cared enough to post here about it though. You're generally pretty level headed around here but that was just a really asinine post. You don't know who Blueman is, good for you, but there's plenty of people around here that do and we don't have to refrain from talking about him just because you don't know who he is.
| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
If that's the case, why bother with percs at all? |
So it's either interesting, groovy percussion or none at all? Those are the only two acceptable usages of percs in trance, period?
Everyone seems to love that Amoeba Assassin - Piledriver track but to me the actual chords and melody are boring as hell. Absolutely nothing interesting about them. But since the track is obviously drawing its energy and drive from the percussion and bass, and I'm aware of that, I didn't waste my time bitching about it in that remix thread devoted to it.
Not every track has to have absolutely every element that can make a track good in order for it to be interesting. Club tracks have ridiculously boring melodies but interesting grooves and basslines that make up for it. Uplifting trance is the opposite. If that scares people who vehemently believe that trance is a purely dance genre, then that's their problem, but they shouldn't take it out on the producers trying to take the genre in a new direction by criticizing it for completely irrelevant matters. |
|
|
| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Viber
Stop acting cool, you know who Andy Blueman is - that is why you don't care about him. |
He's one of these guys, right?
Actually, I was just trying to prove you could not know who he is and still be uncool. |
|
|
| zodiac9 |
I don't know who Andy Blueman is, but I find his blog entry interesting. He's just telling his fans what's going on. I'm sure he has people asking him all the time, when the next Trance release will be. He actually has fans, which is a big accomplishment. It's nice of him to keep them informed, and let them know his inner most thoughts. Never say never, though.
I wish him well with his film music endeavors. He probably should hook up with a partner who has a musical education, he could feed melodies and ideas to them, and they could build around it. Trent Reznor has scored films, "The Social Network". He has no formal music education, so I'm sure he worked closely with a film music director. |
|
|
|
|
