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Gareth Emery is horrible... (pg. 12)
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| jonmitz |
| Just because a bunch of kids on MDMA like cheesy vocal garbage doesn't mean it's good music |
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| tranceforeva |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
Just because a bunch of kids on MDMA like cheesy vocal garbage doesn't mean it's good music |
it's not just "a bunch of kids". it's literally everywhere that I have been, ibiza, ultra, arminonly, ferry, above n beyond.... Or I guess you just classify literally every show in the world thats not in some warehouse in brooklyn as only having "a bunch of kids" in the crowd? I guess if you are calling the ibiza crowd "a bunch of kids" than i guess we just aren't on the same planet |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| you know this thread was beginning to die out. Poop-ing in your $0.02 just inflamed the whole thing all over again. |
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| trancension |
| Actually, it was back in full swing again when I added my 2cents regarding vocal trance. |
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| DaveT |
When it largely comes to people who love the vocals, it does seem it's more of the new crowd to the scene. The popularity has def grown. I have more and more friends who five years ago (hell, a couple of them two years ago) would mock me for liking this stuff, but now they themselves are all into EDM and they all LOVE the vocal crap.
When it comes to places like Ibiza or any major event/club, vocals are always going to be the tracks everyone identifies with and gets into an uproar about. They are tracks where they can interact/sing with the DJ and the rest of the crowd and they love that stuff. Hell, I'm guilty of it in the past. You can be sober, but those points can bring euphoria for a moment. It's like a drug. Because you can feel the energy from everyone else. There's been tracks in the past that aren't vocals (ie. FC - Punk), but the tone of the track allows the crowd to interact vocally and in a big way and that's a huge part of why that track was so f'n huge. Same with Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (back in the day when it was originally released/before arenas & stadiums ruined it).
Vocals are powerful. I can love a good vocal track. But 99.9847918% of the vocal tracks, especially these days, are pure and utter garbage. Hell, I swear most vocals I hear don't even go well the music that's under it. It sounds forced over the music and that's just terrible.
Anyhow, I think vocals are currently a big gateway into trance for a lot of people. But as their taste for the music matures and they dive deeper in it, I think they will realize that what they have been listening to certainly isn't the best trance out there and how much vocals can really kill a track. That is, if they dive deep into it all. Some people only go out for the big names and those big names are going to play more and more vocals, because they eat it up. Except Markus, he's going his own route it seems and it's teh awesomeness!
This said, vocals are a very important part of the scene these days (since I see it as a gateway into trance for a lot of people), and because of that I respect them. Doesn't mean I have to like them, though! |
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| sheffy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Vocals are powerful. I can love a good vocal track. But 99.9847918% of the vocal tracks, especially these days, are pure and utter garbage. Hell, I swear most vocals I hear don't even go well the music that's under it. It sounds forced over the music and that's just terrible. |
That's exactly how I feel about a lot of vocal mash-ups. They're different and can be interesting to hear, but may not necessarily "work" on their own.
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
Anyhow, I think vocals are currently a big gateway into trance for a lot of people. But as their taste for the music matures and they dive deeper into the music, I think they will realize that what they have been listening to certainly isn't the best trance out there and how much vocals can really kill a track. That is, if they dive deep into it all. Some people only go out for the big names and those big names are going to play more and more vocals. Except Markus, he's going his own route it seems and it's teh awesomeness!
This said, vocals are a very important part of the scene these days (since I see it as a gateway into trance for a lot of people), and because of that I respect them. Doesn't mean I have to like them, though! |
This is one of the best posts I've read from you, Dave. :p I really think there is a lot of truth to it.
For example, I have some friends that love the music, but don't *know* a lot of it when they go to clubs with me (where-as I will generally know 50-70% of the songs I hear), but when a huge vocal track comes on that's insanely popular (say, "On A Good Day"), those friends will know the words and sing along with the whole crowd and that is often the highlight of their night.
They may not ever delve as deep into EDM as I do, but those vocal anthems really seem to do their job. |
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| DaveT |
Didn't I tell you to hush?
:tongue2 :cool: :D |
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| Tosh |
| But how can house heads blast trance vocals so bad when house music has the worst vocals of all? |
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| 72hrpartyanimal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tosh
But how can house heads blast trance vocals so bad when house music has the worst vocals of all? |
cuz its fun :) |
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| Tosh |
| quote: | Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
cuz its fun :) |
This is fair:) |
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| system-7 |
| cause its been second best to trance for I dunna 15 years now. |
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| Apeattack |
I finally listened to SvD's set... there were some sub-par transitions in there, just like in his Dusk Til Doorn compilation album. Maybe in person those transitions sounded better but in the recording they just weren't that good. From a technical standpoint I think GE did better than SvD.
As I and others said before, if you like SvD's song selection you will think his set was awesome and probably won't like GE's set anywhere near as much. But "horrible" is a silly word for GE's set. |
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