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Psychedelics alliance (acid n shrooms etc) (pg. 14)
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taipan
Acid in tab form is far from consistent. I'm not sure what you mean by 'clean' or 'dirty', but there is definitely such a thing as 'strong' and 'weak'. |
Well I was going to mention that, but thought that seemed obvious.
For some people the thing you're taking is more important than the amount (wanting a tiny bit of acid and taking tons sucks, but taking 2x as much as you wanted is alright sometimes) |
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| Domesticated |
Bahaha, I just read on erowid that you can trip balls on nutmeg, though it seems you have to take a lot. I want to try it just for the lame bragging rights. "Have YOU ever eaten a whole jar of nutmeg in one sitting?"
| quote: | | When I began abusing nutmeg I was going through a very rough patch in my life, I was very depressed, and my abuse of this terrible spice only served to make things worse. |
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It's like something out of South Park. I bet Krypton has gone to rehab for it. |
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| srussell0018 |
| I'm cheesing my ing face off right now |
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| Darkarbiter |
No , I seriously recommend them to anyone. Any of my infinite number of depressed friends. It's pretty hard not to have a great time, and your life just gets better afterwards.
Compared to all the you go through with anti depressants it's a miracle. |
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| srussell0018 |
| Highly regulated acid would be much more fun and beneficial imo. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Darkarbiter
No , I seriously recommend them to anyone. Any of my infinite number of depressed friends. It's pretty hard not to have a great time, and your life just gets better afterwards.
Compared to all the you go through with anti depressants it's a miracle. |
That's a foolhardy statement, and you know it. Psychedelics are extremely unpredictable, both person to person and on a case-by-case basis in the same person. The effects on a seriously mentally ill person could be devastating.
That study isn't quite so black and white, either. While I agree with it in principle because shrooms greatly improved my understanding of my own life, its figures are skewed. For starters, there were only 18 test subjects - a tiny sample. Secondly, it appears as if the subjects volunteered. Many of them mention yoga and meditation in their comments, meaning they're most likely people already inclined towards all the pseudo-mystical crap associated with psychedelic drugs. This second one isn't so much of a problem though, because the study aims to prove that shrooms can be a beneficial medicine, and the only people who'd care about taking it are the aforementioned group, or other open-minded people. |
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| enydo |
| And what "" do people who are on anti-depressants go through? Are you speaking from experience, or just prattling on about something you're only vaguely aware of? |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Secondly, it appears as if the subjects volunteered. |
I'm pretty sure it's unethical to do such an experiment on a sample population that didn't volunteer. |
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| srussell0018 |
| SSRIs actually have a fairly high rate of negative side effects, but most are pretty minor aside from the sexual ones (lack of sex drive, impotence, etc.). I've taken like 3 or 4 different kinds and every time they either completely killed my sex drive or made it impossible to finish. The real problem is the overkill of how much they're prescribed. A lot of psychiatrists are more apt to just medicate people instead of actually dealing with their problems, so many people end up being on anti-depressants that they don't really need. It's just as bad as how many unnecessary scripts are given for ritalin and adderall imo, except anti-depressants don't have any immediate effects which lead people to use them recreationally. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I'm pretty sure it's unethical to do such an experiment on a sample population that didn't volunteer. |
Of course, anyone who participated would have to volunteer. However, the wording of the article suggests that the trial was run with very specific aims in mind - and achieved the results it set out to. Were the trial to be run like any other clinical drug trial, "Hi, would you be willing to take six doses of this new drug for $1000?" the results would have been a lot more impartial. Patients could have been administered with a unrecognisable form of the drug and wouldn't know what it was unless they'd taken it prior.
Instead, this trial seems to have said, "Hey, who wants to see if shrooms are beneficial?" and been completely open with subjects about what they were taking, conducting the entire experiment outside the usual sphere of clinical trials. With the former approach, they could have attracted a far more representative cross-section. Of course, I'm gleaning most of this from the mere tone and wordings of the articles, but I'm pretty sure I'm correct. |
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| Domesticated |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
SSRIs actually have a fairly high rate of negative side effects, but most are pretty minor aside from the sexual ones (lack of sex drive, impotence, etc.). I've taken like 3 or 4 different kinds and every time they either completely killed my sex drive or made it impossible to finish. The real problem is the overkill of how much they're prescribed. A lot of psychiatrists are more apt to just medicate people instead of actually dealing with their problems, so many people end up being on anti-depressants that they don't really need. It's just as bad as how many unnecessary scripts are given for ritalin and adderall imo, except anti-depressants don't have any immediate effects which lead people to use them recreationally. |
You're medicated (or have been) and yet you've spent all this time making fun of VAR for his own usage? You really are a clever lad, aren't you? |
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