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Black NYC man breaks up street fight arrested and choked to death all on vid.
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| PaULiN0 |
Messed up and its recent plus the cops were acquitted.
Public records show Garner was out on $4,000 bond or $2,000 cash bail -- he has three pending criminal cases against him, all involving charges of possession and sale of untaxed cigarettes, from arrests in May, March and last August. In the August case, police also charged him with aggravated unlicensed operation of a vehicle, false personation and marijuana possession. |
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| zps |
| This is why I support American militias. |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by zps
This is why I support American militias. |
This is why you what?! :wtf:
How is that even better? |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by PaULiN0
Messed up and its recent plus the cops were acquitted.
Public records show Garner was out on $4,000 bond or $2,000 cash bail -- he has three pending criminal cases against him, all involving charges of possession and sale of untaxed cigarettes, from arrests in May, March and last August. In the August case, police also charged him with aggravated unlicensed operation of a vehicle, false personation and marijuana possession. |
It's tragic and it simply shouldn't happen. There was the bakersfield man that police beat to death in front of his wife during an arrest last year, another learning difficulties guy who was killed while police tried to subdue him even though he was saying "I can't breath" - but it seems they just keep doing it.
One thing though (and this isn't justification); Eric Garner had over 30 criminal prosecutions on his record ranging from assault to fraud.
You have to imagine, when you run someone's details and they have that many arrests, as a police officer you're expecting the worst time of trouble. It's a little rich of the family's lawyer to be putting out all these press releases about what an amazing father and family man he was, when he's an ardent career criminal, but still, no excuse to ever use that level of violence or kill someone.
There's a great book called Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces, by Radley Balko.
c0r version: police think they are military style warriors and every person you arrest will kill you if you don't pound or tazer them to death first.
Check out this Patrol Officer giving a co-operative NFL player a million instructions (all of which he complies) yet the Officer wants to tazer the guy so damn bad.
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| AmberLea |
| Fifty shades of ed up.:( |
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| AY STAR |
not saying this guy is a role model citizen
but the cops claimed he was selling loose cigs. he said he didnt have cigs on him
cops should have told him to empty his pockets and if they found them just give him a summons
arresting someone for selling ciggerettes? really? cops cant find better on someone
unreal. i hope there is a investigation into this and heads roll
tired of seeing cops overstep basic human communication and common sense because of their bull protocal |
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| LoveHate |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
It's tragic and it simply shouldn't happen. There was the bakersfield man that police beat to death in front of his wife during an arrest last year, another learning difficulties guy who was killed while police tried to subdue him even though he was saying "I can't breath" - but it seems they just keep doing it.
One thing though (and this isn't justification); Eric Garner had over 30 criminal prosecutions on his record ranging from assault to fraud.
You have to imagine, when you run someone's details and they have that many arrests, as a police officer you're expecting the worst time of trouble. It's a little rich of the family's lawyer to be putting out all these press releases about what an amazing father and family man he was, when he's an ardent career criminal, but still, no excuse to ever use that level of violence or kill someone.
There's a great book called Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces, by Radley Balko.
c0r version: police think they are military style warriors and every person you arrest will kill you if you don't pound or tazer them to death first.
Check out this Patrol Officer giving a co-operative NFL player a million instructions (all of which he complies) yet the Officer wants to tazer the guy so damn bad.
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Him having those criminal prosecutions doesn't mean he wasn't a family man though. I mean the nigga was selling loose cigarettes. Where is the list of his prosecutions, because the ones I found have to do with selling untaxed cigarettes, having a small amount of marijuana(An amount for personal use), and driving without a license. He isn't a model citizen but I don't see how this stops him from being a decent/good father or a family man. |
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| DOOMBOT |
Shed light on what incident? The video in the first post shows a bunch of men murdering another man who didn't appear to be a violent threat to anyone. What does that have to do with cigarette smuggling and why he was murdered? |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
This is why you what?! :wtf:
How is that even better? |
I believe the intent of a militia is to stand up against and defend from murderous people, like the men in the video. I don't believe militias, in the sense that zps is describing, murder; they act in self defense.
This video is disgusting and why it's hard to take police officers seriously. I know there are many out there who wouldn't act this way but there is a lot of incentive to do it and when they do, most of the time, get away with it. What happened in the video is murder, plain and simple. There is no way to justify or defend the actions of these animals (no, they are not human beings after doing what they did). |
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| Spacey Orange |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Shed light on what incident? The video in the first post shows a bunch of men murdering another man who didn't appear to be a violent threat to anyone. What does that have to do with cigarette smuggling and why he was murdered? |
when i first heard about this, i asked myself why would the police harass someone selling loose cigarettes?
the article states that the state of NY, of which NYC makes up a large part i'm sure, is losing 525 million a year in lost revenue (2011). i can infer that the police have been ordered to crack down on all illegally imported cigarettes. that's just a supposition though. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spacey Orange
when i first heard about this, i asked myself why would the police harass someone selling loose cigarettes?
the article states that the state of NY, of which NYC makes up a large part i'm sure, is losing 525 million a year in lost revenue (2011). i can infer that the police have been ordered to crack down on all illegally imported cigarettes. that's just a supposition though. |
I understand but my point is that, even if that were true, it takes our attention away from the fact that this man was murdered. Selling cigarettes is a non-violent crime, while killing a peaceful person (this guy) is quite the opposite. It's another nail in the coffin for how much more destructive prohibition of an item is then when it is legal and allowed to freely move between peaceful people.
Is it true that the people who killed this guy didn't get punished for their crime? |
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