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wotyzoid
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Originally posted by Paradox Lost
but I can tell you that Oxia- Domino was the closest we got to mnml in 2005.








not even ing close
Singularity55
There's no point making a statement that's clearly wrong, then backpedaling when called out by saying "you know what I meant" when clearly you just were wrong, it just makes you look like someone that isn't able to admit when they are wrong.
AlphaStarred
quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
1992-1994: Possibly the best years for electronic music ever.


Fixed.
Trance-M
quote:
Originally posted by Singularity55
There's no point making a statement that's clearly wrong, then backpedaling when called out by saying "you know what I meant" when clearly you just were wrong, it just makes you look like someone that isn't able to admit when they are wrong.


Assuming you're refering to me: Like all people in the early 90's so also in 1995 I missed many tracks. Obvious, as we had to rely on what was available in record shops, there was no internet available. This is also why compilations were that popular. I went shopping in three countries back then because I'm close to the borders. Chance I would have missed a popular track is small, although not impossible.
So assuming I missed this one, I just can't find anything indicating that it actually was the case. Maybe when living in the U.K., but not in Germany and all surrounding countries. This is my opinion, someone not U.K. biased who actually was listening music in 1995 can prove me totally wrong and then I will appologize for my reply.
Kilixpree
quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
but I can tell you that Oxia- Domino was the closest we got to mnml in 2005.

ame - rej? XD
rubez
if i assume most people started on the 2000 era music, then after being a fan for some years, you look to the past era you never got to experience with some sort of nostalgia. at that point, you can becomes jaded with today's music - with it having significantly morphed into something unrecognisable to what you grew up with. then in a few more years you are reinvigorated.

these peaks and troughs are what most people probably experience.

objectively if you look at the best records from every year, and distance yourself from your personal emotional attachment, you may find that the bad years weren't as bad as you thought.

i'm sure people who started in 1995 balked at the "99" trance, like we became disillusioned in 2005.

as you branch out from your initial scene, exploring other genres, you can feel like you are in limbo or persona non grata, and that wont endear you to that particular place in time.

minimal though :stongue:
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Trance-M
I'm stopping now as you clearly can't look past borders.


Are you ting me? Your entire argument is "I never heard it in my country, therefore nobody anywhere listened to it". This started because an American posted a track by an American artist and you're trying to tell him nobody listened to that track because you personally didn't hear it in 1995.

Oh look, here's a Sasha set where he plays the track in San Francisco, USA. In 1995: http://www.oldskoolanthemz.com/foru...3rd-1995-a.html. Here's Paul Oakenfold playing the same track in Ibiza, Spain. In 1995: http://www.oakenfoldmixes.com/mixes...5-essential-mix

How many times do I have to prove you completely wrong before you can just admit it?
Alex
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid






not even ing close


Never really understood the whole minimal thing. Wen't to see a label party in London when I was there in 2008 (can't remember the name now) and while my foot was tapping the ground most of the time I felt that for a party at Fabric the music seemed a bit groovy yes, but certainly not energetic.

I'm ashamed that I can't remember the name of the label, but with these clues I'm sure you guys will figure it out:

Lesbian dj that played tech house/minimal whatever, was popular during the time I mentioned. (2007/2008). She was attractive, dark hair and was obviously involved with (???) label.
OrangestO
quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Around 2009-2012 almost every genre was in the process of finding a new identity (techno & house going back to the roots, drum&bass discovering autonomic, dubstep endlessly mutating) but by now things are more or less settled in.


At that time, when I hopped on the train, I had no clue. Now it all makes sense.
wotyzoid
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Manimal is for real men with hair in their balls. Who the needs 32 reverbs on a kick?


This should be my signature

wotyzoid
Trance-M
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Are you ting me? Your entire argument is "I never heard it in my country, therefore nobody anywhere listened to it". This started because an American posted a track by an American artist and you're trying to tell him nobody listened to that track because you personally didn't hear it in 1995.

Oh look, here's a Sasha set where he plays the track in San Francisco, USA. In 1995: http://www.oldskoolanthemz.com/foru...3rd-1995-a.html. Here's Paul Oakenfold playing the same track in Ibiza, Spain. In 1995: http://www.oakenfoldmixes.com/mixes...5-essential-mix

How many times do I have to prove you completely wrong before you can just admit it?


I'll instantly admit that "nobody" was totally a wrong choice of words and if I need to apologize for that I here you have it.

But you are changing my words as I didn't say MY country and I also won't as I'm very aware of the fact that Holland was and still is way to small to represent that many countries. But IMO the U.K. also can't represent the rest of Europe, especially with this example.

Two of your countrymen played the track, one at the other side of the world and one in Ibiza where all Europeans go on vacation, so all must have heard it. We couldn't listen it because it wasn't at any compilation or played by well known DJ's over here. It just wasn't available for the large crowd, simple as that.

It doesn't change what I meant to say and that is that compared to many other tracks, even hard trance tracks of Alien Factory, those were known by far more people and better represent what was played in a large number of European countries. If he had picked a track of e.g. Emmanuel Top I wouldn't even doubt about it.

So I still think few people at the mainland of Europe knew the track in 1995. Whether I listened it or not is not relevant.
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