WTF? I was expecting people to take issue of the Major Lazer track I posted, not BT. I may not know what German people were listening to back in 1995 but I did talk to several retired ravers who used to be part of the scene back in that time and they told me that BT's Ima and ESCM used to be part of their staple of albums that they listened too then. So no, definitely disagree with that statement.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Trance-M
It doesn't change what I meant to say
I know exactly what your point is. Your on-going mission is to prove that TAs are unfairly forgetting the silly German cheese-trance scene that you were part of in the '90s. You think TAs are only talking about the deeper trance from that era which, in your memory, not many people listened to, and this isn't how things really were.
Basically put, you are butthurt that TAs don't remember your awful German hard-trance and aren't interested in it. So you try to retaliate against this total disinterest by down-playing the importance of the stuff other TAs are talking about.
Unfortunately for you, tracks like Tripping The Light Fantastic were big in 1995. They were taken all over the world and played by the biggest British DJs in places like Ibiza, America and Australia. They sold tens of thousands of records. The historical facts are there and can be demonstrated. And you just end up looking stupid.
Sykonee
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Originally posted by Zharen
WTF? I was expecting people to take issue of the Major Lazer track I posted, not BT.
I'm willing to bet almost no one even bothered checking out Major Lazer. Besides, if it's a comparison of cheesy, chart-topping dance hits between the years, this would have been more appropriate than BT:
kosmotika
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know exactly what your point is. Your on-going mission is to prove that TAs are unfairly forgetting the silly German cheese-trance scene that you were part of in the '90s. You think TAs are only talking about the deeper trance from that era which, in your memory, not many people listened to, and this isn't how things really were.
Basically put, you are butthurt that TAs don't remember your awful German hard-trance and aren't interested in it. So you try to retaliate against this total disinterest by down-playing the importance of the stuff other TAs are talking about.
Unfortunately for you, tracks like Tripping The Light Fantastic were big in 1995. They were taken all over the world and played by the biggest British DJs in places like Ibiza, America and Australia. They sold tens of thousands of records. The historical facts are there and can be demonstrated. And you just end up looking stupid.
And this is why TA is all but barren nowdays. This site has a couple bitter old folks who you'd swear have only ever listened to BT, Sasha, John Digweed and J00F. Sorry J, but I've seen enough of your rude postings to last a lifetime. Who the would want to post on this forum about *trance* when you're constantly spitting bile at anything that is above 130bpm and isn't 15 minutes of monotonous looping? If you want to talk up the UK scene of 95 talk about Man With No Name, Art Of Trance, X-Cabs, Underworld etc...not this dull and pretentious 'progressive' you're swearing by all the time.
It's time to face the music (pun intended): You shouldn't even be on this particular forum because of the fact that you clearly do not like trance. You like one very niche subgenre that I personally wouldn't even bother to classify as trance in the first place. You're welcome to like what you like, but this site is not the place for that kind of thing. Trance is by nature a very simple, upbeat and somewhat cheesy genre and it always has been.
For all the supposed vast knowledge yourself and a couple other supposed 'trance addicts' possess, you have an uncanny ability to piss off actual musicians who have made the . Not all members on this site feel the need to spew vitriol-driven garbage but some of the most active do and this post is directed at them. I see that at this moment there are 68 members and 261 guests are on this site and I bet only a few of them will ever post anything. Why? Because nobody is talking about actual trance, real trance, not this template-built 'uplifting' or 'dark' garbage that frankly bores the pants of just about anyone I've known that listens to the oldschool stuff. Do you think tens of thousands of people packed the streets of Berlin in the 90s to hear ing Sasha and Digweed? Same logic applies...this prog stuff has its niche place as all genres do, but real trance heads honestly don't give a about it.
Here, have some TRANCE, you cancerous doofus.
Mr Game+Watch
2005 was a serious year of transition for dance music... I didn't mind it actually, 2006 and 7 were FAR worse, when minimal techno dominated EVERYTHING and was influencing stuff as far removed as trance.
But 05 had some neat stuff, I didn't mind the twinkly McProg sound, there were some fantastic progressive breaks released around that time, electro house was taking off and progressive was merging with that (Mashtronic, Shiloh), and I did like some of the funkier house sounds appearing around that time (i.e. Freemasons). Sasha's Maida Vale EM from that time was nothing short of incredible, even if his Fundaction album was weak.
Being in the US, I didn't notice much in the way of dance music's recession in the UK. Club-wise, living in NY I still had Crobar and Spirit if I wanted to see some of the big jocks. And a TA who my friend knew would get us free admission to Crobar's VIP.
2015... to be honest, 2015 was one of the first years where I listened to more old music than new. The EDM takeover of the US became stale and started to die out (this is a good thing, but a few years back it was exciting to see dance music finally dominate in America after so many false starts), 'future house' aka let's repeat mid 90's house and garage, tropical house proved to be a one trick pony that soccer moms have even taken to. Nothing was as exciting to me as the nu-disco boom of a few years ago, or even the dark, proggy 'man trance' popular in 2013-2014. I didn't go out clubbing nearly as much, only to the Anjunadeep party a few months ago (which was still great).
It could just be me getting old and jaded with dance music (I'm 33 and have been a devout listener more than half my life), crossed with being too busy and/or too apathetic to search out new stuff. Although a bit of what I've heard in 2016 makes the year seem promising...
AlphaStarred
Still hard to imagine the recent acid house - not to mention acid - revival. There was an article that said 2015 had sold the most number of vinyls since the CD was introduced in 1989 or so.
2techs
1995 diva garage house ftw
planetaryplayer
today is the era of man trance , 'derp house' which i believe derrick carter uses in reference of that crappy version of deep house, and fake techno (i.e. the track rube just posted of nicole moudaber, drumcode, stefano noferini)
those sounds are primarily what are being pushed in my local scene. i wonder if that corresponds with digital sales and/or magazine rankings directly. perhaps its just here those sounds are big.. toronto tech house they say
wotyzoid
This is the wave, you late ass noobs:
Woony
I honestly think SAM is the most talented house producer to emerge in the past few years but he's done better records (still pretty damn good, though).
Trance-M
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know exactly what your point is. Your on-going mission is to prove that TAs are unfairly forgetting the silly German cheese-trance scene that you were part of in the '90s. You think TAs are only talking about the deeper trance from that era which, in your memory, not many people listened to, and this isn't how things really were.
Basically put, you are butthurt that TAs don't remember your awful German hard-trance and aren't interested in it. So you try to retaliate against this total disinterest by down-playing the importance of the stuff other TAs are talking about.
Unfortunately for you, tracks like Tripping The Light Fantastic were big in 1995. They were taken all over the world and played by the biggest British DJs in places like Ibiza, America and Australia. They sold tens of thousands of records. The historical facts are there and can be demonstrated. And you just end up looking stupid.
To me it still looks like you're making your own reality and we still are talking about around 1995.
I can't help the early BT tracks (which without doubt were great) weren't spread and picked up more over Europe. I adored Flaming June and liked Remember, Mercury And Solace and Godspeed.
As one of few still here who actually listened in the early 90's I think it's allowed to give my opinion if I think it's not in line with how I experienced those days. And yes, the harder German stuff was a big part of the scene which did not only cover Germany.
You calling it silly cheese trance really says enough.
I own this one, bought it in 1995, one of the best compilations of that time and which came from London, have a look, read the comments. It's not like the stuff Germany and the rest of Europe was listening wasn't listened in the U.K.:
If ever a DJ marked the dawn of a new era this was it, and Blu Peter was a tru trailblazer. As a regular of Garage on a Friday night in Heaven, London on Fridays during 1995/6, this is a quite special time capsule, that neither the Reactivate series, nor any other DJ mix CD ever matched again.
The Reactivate series was a great one and arguably this was by far the best in the collection. Well ahead of it's time with this sound later becoming much more popular. All the tracks on this album are a great example of some of the more well known tracks that were the beginnings of harder edged trance/techno sound. A must for anyone who appreciates this genre and the history with it. A lot of these tracks have stood the test of time and are still played today, it's well worth checking out the individual artists and labels featured. Timeless stuff!
Great compilation of nu nrg and trance from mid 90's. Summed up the tunes from clubs like Trade and other decent nights in London at the time.
10 times better tracks to pick than the posted BT one when you seriously want to compare music from around 1995:
kosmotika
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Originally posted by Trance-M
To me it still looks like you're making your own reality and we still are talking about around 1995.
I can't help the early BT tracks (which without doubt were great) weren't spread and picked up more over Europe. I adored Flaming June and liked Remember, Mercury And Solace and Godspeed.
As one of few still here who actually listened in the early 90's I think it's allowed to give my opinion if I think it's not in line with how I experienced those days. And yes, the harder German stuff was a big part of the scene which did not only cover Germany.
You calling it silly cheese trance really says enough.
I own this one, bought it in 1995, one of the best compilations of that time and which came from London, have a look, read the comments. It's not like the stuff Germany and the rest of Europe was listening wasn't listened in the U.K.:
10 times better tracks to pick than the posted BT one when you seriously want to compare music from around 1995:
Dare I even mention
Use stuff like this to argue a case for good trance in the UK in the mid 90s not Tripping The Light Fantastic ffs...
Also the 'silly awful cheese trance' as you call it was being made in the UK at the time as well.
