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AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
"I didn't say Muslims, I said Islam."


Correct. And of course I have no qualms about referring to jihadists and terrorists. And again, where do you see me throwing insults around every time someone posts innacurate information and is "wrong?" You do it constantly. Because you're immature. Not because you're "not a nice guy."

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But by all means, tell me more about how to achieve fulfillment in my life.


Notice how I wrote immature/unfulfilled? You belong to the former category. And not to worry, I leave my house whenever I want, I'm simply not working at the moment.

Speaking of which, you're the last person who should be calling anyone arrogant:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I am far, far more intelligent than you and even you know that.


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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
...the posts in this thread saying how much people enjoy reading my write-ups.


I'd choose my words more wisely next time.

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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Are you ing retarded? Since when is a person living in Minneapolis an authority on what's hot globally in club culture?


That's not the implication I got from his post. He made it sound as though because kosmotika is living in MN, he doesn't know squat about music.
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by Trance-M
You also seem to have a problem with reading. Where did I say in the MD we can only discuss trance?


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Originally posted by vampirul_18
i bet that they are a lot of people here who are afraid to say anything because of these omniscient gods...

oh, you like progressive house (any kind, any year) = dumb noob, you're living in the past... :eek:
oh, you like trance (silly cheese or not, any year or any genre) = man, trance is dead... go listen to my favorite type of music (ambient/boring german dub techno), this is the sound of 2016... bla bla bla...

some old users here tend to forget that they are on a ing trance forum, or at least it's called like that... :haha:


To which you responded:

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Originally posted by Trance-M
I'm afraid you're right and it's ridiculous this actually happens here.
If I can do anything to change that I will. I'm 41 by the way.


Are you sure you wanna do this? I'll try to be respectful just because you're much older, but there is a word for a woman's genitals that we use as slang here in America that would describe your passive aggressiveness perfectly.
Trance-M
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I think it's ok to say stuff like "trance is dead," etc. if you feel that, but you know there will always be different inclinations toward different music.


I don't agree, I think at a trance forum there are better ways to share your opinion.
SYSTEM-J
I wouldn't dream of denying that I'm arrogant, but I back my up with knowledge when it counts. Of course, if you had any idea of the previous discussion we're referring to you wouldn't be chatting so much redundant now.

And to re-cap: you're an absolute ing wreck whose life is a mess, and you're happy to spend all day arguing in complete futility on the Internet, whether it's about Muslims, Islam or Jihad. And yet you appear to have miraculously transformed into a sage elder just before you stepped through the front door of this thread, and now you seem to think you can deposit massive steaming turds of self-congratulatory condescension and nobody will go: "Hang on, you're ing AlphaStarred! Get the outta here!"
wotyzoid
IT'S ING DEAD, NO ONE LISTENS TO IT ANYMORE, NO ONE PLAYS IT ANYMORE, NOT DEBATABLE, MOVE ON!
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by Trance-M
I don't agree, I think at a trance forum there are better ways to share your opinion.


Then we agree to disagree. Nothing wrong with having said acid/acid house was dead some years ago - because it was. Now it's not. Why do we have to be politically correct here? Compared to earlier years, trance has become much more of a niche genre (somewhat like acid, perhaps). You can't go out now in NYC and easily find a trance party, if at all, these days. Before you could. Hence, it's relatively dead.
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I wouldn't dream of denying that I'm arrogant, but I back my up with knowledge when it counts.


Show me how you backed up that you're far, far more intelligent than Nou. I wanna see that knowledge.

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And to re-cap: you're an absolute ing wreck whose life is a mess, and you're happy to spend all day arguing in complete futility on the Internet, whether it's about Muslims, Islam or Jihad. And yet you appear to have miraculously transformed into a sage elder just before you stepped through the front door of this thread, and now you seem to think you can deposit massive steaming turds of self-congratulatory condescension...


There we go again, getting mad and hurling insults like a butthurt kid. It's what you do best when you have nothing else to say or refuse to argue a point. I'm not happy to be "arguing all day" here, and I don't. I just felt the need to put you in your mothering place. I'm glad you acknowledged your arrogance.

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...and nobody will go: "Hang on, you're ing AlphaStarred! Get the outta here!"


Again, speaking for everyone else. First of all, you don't represent the opinion of everyone on the board. Speak for yourself. Second of all, I couldn't care less what others here think about me, I came to this thread to put you in your place. I don't feel the need to seek approval of TAs to fill my life with meaning, nor call others cretins to feel better about myself. No wonder I never saw you post on the Discogs forums - they'll laugh at your ass and wouldn't take a minute of your . Grow the up and get over yourself. ing keyboard warrior over here.
kosmotika
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Don't bother apologising. I'm not a very nice guy.

I find it a bit strange that you're "touched almost spiritually" by music that you admit is "very simple, upbeat and somewhat cheesy". Perhaps that says something about your spirit, or about mine.

But setting that aside, it's pretty embarrassing to watch you lecture a Berghain denizen about how to be a "club DJ" and then give him 15 year old proggy trance as examples of what he should be playing. There are so many levels to your ignorance that you can't even comprehend, but you have the amazing arrogance that can only come from someone living in a place like Minneapolis, where listening to anything other than Taylor Swift makes you downright bohemian.

Trance is dead. You might get ten genuinely great tracks a year if you're lucky. This forum is 50% an appreciation society for a vanquished sub-culture, and 50% everyone just talking about the stuff they like now they've moved on. That's why the place is a tomb. If people like me left just because we didn't love trance according to your high-demand spec, it'd be even more deserted than it is now.

Something doesn't need to be complicated to be effective. Do you make your girlfriend recite the philosophies of Socrates every night or is it possible for you just to enjoy her company? See what I'm saying? You're going to end up rather miserable if you demand everything in your life to be complex lest it be dismissed as effortless garbage, and honestly I get the vibe that you and the smurf fetishist up there aren't the happiest people around.
As for that thread, I'm just saying that really doesn't do it for me; I find that particular genre to be very easy listening and I have seen DJs attempt to play it before and watched places clear out because of it whereas I see oldschool trance, funky house & hard techno don't have much trouble getting the place active. In my experience that genre just doesn't work if you're trying to spin at a dance club. That's why I gave some examples of more hypnotic tracks that I believe fit the overall mood while maintaining effectiveness in that setting. There are of course niche crowds for everything but I was speaking from my personal experience and I made that very clear. It doesn't matter where someone is from. You're far too obsessed with regions and borders. Not everything is so rigid, especially when it comes to something as broad as music. Just because someone is from or isn't from a specific location doesn't mean they've got great or poor taste or are a great or poor DJ.
The reason trance is 'dead' (and I will give you that because as someone who actively looks to help distribute trance music from unknowns, I have a very difficult time finding anything made with the traditional sound) is because of 2 reasons that I see: One reason is the artists, who build music off uninspired templates and can't master a track to save their life. The other reason is listeners like yourself who will constantly try (and with some success) to force the idea that trance is a thing of the past by proclaiming DJs who play trance and artists who make it are outdated and stupid.
Trance is frankly an easily accessible genre and could very well make a comeback if only it weren't for those aforementioned things.
Perhaps it's a futile effort, but I can try to bring the classic sound back by mixing it and producing it and you and the smurfette can sit on this forum circlejerking and being hostile. To each other own.
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by kosmotika
...and you and the smurfette can sit on this forum circlejerking and being hostile.


That's what this place is for - kidults circle-jerking and calling others cretins when they disagree with them or their taste in music. No wonder they never post on Discogs, where there are actually mature people around.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by AlphaStarred
I just felt the need to put you in your mothering place.


Spectacular job you're doing, champ. So you've come into this thread entirely to "put me in my place" and you've dug up quotes of mine from something like 6+ months ago to do it. Chimes perfectly with this sage wisdom:

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Maybe when one matures more/finds some fulfillment in their life, they'll see the futility in vehemently arguing a point across using every possible epithet just to prove the other person wrong.


Oh wait.

wotyzoid
This thread is getting me so annoyed. I hate you Alphastarred, if I run into you in Brooklyn ill yank that payot right out of your skull.
AlphaStarred
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Spectacular job you're doing, champ.


Thank you, sir.

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So you've come into this thread entirely to "put me in my place" and you've dug up quotes of mine from something like 6+ months ago to do it.


Someone had to do it, for once. And no, I came here for fun, but seeing your typical acrid, belligerent effusion, I gave you a taste of your own medicine and called you out on your hypocrisy.


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Oh wait.


Yeah, wait. Where do you see me hurling epithets at you except for calling you out on your own arrogance, when you consistently attack others for theirs? Okay, then.

I'd still like to see your explanation about the Minneapolis statement.
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