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Honest Opinions (Ok, dicks who wanna flame can come too) (pg. 3)
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| MisterOpus1 |
I'm an endurance athlete, so take my opinion whichever way you wish (I'm also have a Master's in Exercise Phys and Biomechanics, plus ACE personal trainer certification, so there's my shameless promotion, LOL). But at initial glance, the obvious is pecs, plus as previously mentioned you seem to deliberately be covering up your legs. The legs are the powerhouse of your body - working them out in proportion to your upper body will greatly enhance both strength and muscle hypertrophy (to a certain extent). I'd also be interested in seeing your back muscles. Your traps seem to be developed fairly well, but not quite proportional to your lats (from the front shot at least).
The best developed, of course, is your arms. Great biceps and triceps. My guess is you have concentrated much on these areas.
So in sum, the advice I would give (if you're not already doing this) is the following:
-On your next cycle, concentrate a little less on specific areas like your biceps/triceps, and a great deal more on multiple muscle groups, i.e. major muscle group activities, such as bench pr., lat pulldown, military press (provided your rotator cuffs are good), etc.
-Legs my man! Maybe I'm a little biased, because in triathlons (which I do), legs are practically everything. But seriously, they will help you (assuming you're not concentrating on them), and they will help you with your overall strength including upper body. A quick example - resistance training creates a great deal of lactic acid (i.e. muscle waste). While the muscles that create the lactic acid are disposing of the acid, other muscle groups that are not doing the resistance are helping to break down the lactic acid build up. It is therefore beneficial to keep those other muscle groups in shape that are not doing the resistance (like the legs on an upper body day!). Just a quick example.
-Don't be afraid to throw in a long rep/light weights day 1 every couple of weeks. Helps build endurance, and most importantly to you, create tonage.
Gotta go. Overall, I'd do ya!:D |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
crunches are good but even better are...err dont know what theyre called but u lie down flat on ur back hand sort of under ur ass....then lift ur legs to six inches (must be straight) then lift to 12 inches and when u do this u move ur head up a bit and crunch in ur stomach..then back down to six then up to 12 over and over again..i usually do 2 sets of 20 reps on those and 2 sets of 20 reps of crunches....works wonders |
How often do you do that/ |
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| TrAnCeAkI |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Why hello thar Orbax!  |
ROFLLL MINTY!!!!
ORBAX u can use a tan too lol and some baby oil! |
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| Vivid Boy |
| every work out...i work out abt 3-4 times a week |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
in defense a flash on a camera does tend to make you lose what little definition you might have. Plus im a fatass lately and hadnt realized how bad my gut has gotten :P
, yeah I literally havent done barbell bench in over a year and a half. I had someone tell me to focus on Dumb bells and they had a good chest so I believed em!
What ab exercises do you do? I cant really think of anything novel besides rope pulldowns and crunches hehe. |
here is a basic breakdown of what i you start to do (note: i won't incorporate different days or anything...you work that out):
Chest:
Bench Press (bar)
Incline Bench Press (bar)
(Declind bench press if you want i don't usually but hey its there)
Shoulder:
shoulder press (bar)
military press (bar)
arm:
bicep curls (bar)
tricep press (bar)
forearm curl (bar)
are you noticing a theme hear????
back:
bent over rows (bar)
lat pulldown (machine)
pull ups
legs:
squats (bar)
lunges (bar)
leg press
toe raises (machine or bar)
the main thing with abs is just to make sure you hit all the different areas...you got these:
upper abs
lower abs
obliques
so pick an excercise for each...
obliques
a great on is a rotatry machine if you work out at a gym...if you do the home some kind of bending variation of normal stuff..
upper abs are easy so i won't say much on that...
lower abs
my fav is this:
lay on a bench with you ass and legs off the pad. suspend you legs in the air and then kick them up as far as you can (oh and stretch stuff). then bring them back down to horizontal and keep doing that...i don't know it works for me hehehe... |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I'm an endurance athlete, so take my opinion whichever way you wish (I'm also have a Master's in Exercise Phys and Biomechanics, plus ACE personal trainer certification, so there's my shameless promotion, LOL). But at initial glance, the obvious is pecs, plus as previously mentioned you seem to deliberately be covering up your legs. The legs are the powerhouse of your body - working them out in proportion to your upper body will greatly enhance both strength and muscle hypertrophy (to a certain extent). I'd also be interested in seeing your back muscles. Your traps seem to be developed fairly well, but not quite proportional to your lats (from the front shot at least).
The best developed, of course, is your arms. Great biceps and triceps. My guess is you have concentrated much on these areas.
So in sum, the advice I would give (if you're not already doing this) is the following:
-On your next cycle, concentrate a little less on specific areas like your biceps/triceps, and a great deal more on multiple muscle groups, i.e. major muscle group activities, such as bench pr., lat pulldown, military press (provided your rotator cuffs are good), etc.
-Legs my man! Maybe I'm a little biased, because in triathlons (which I do), legs are practically everything. But seriously, they will help you (assuming you're not concentrating on them), and they will help you with your overall strength including upper body. A quick example - resistance training creates a great deal of lactic acid (i.e. muscle waste). While the muscles that create the lactic acid are disposing of the acid, other muscle groups that are not doing the resistance are helping to break down the lactic acid build up. It is therefore beneficial to keep those other muscle groups in shape that are not doing the resistance (like the legs on an upper body day!). Just a quick example.
-Don't be afraid to throw in a long rep/light weights day 1 every couple of weeks. Helps build endurance, and most importantly to you, create tonage.
Gotta go. Overall, I'd do ya!:D |
glad somebody else around here knows about the wheels heehehe... |
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| jinxed84 |
looks like you could use some work on Abs, chest, and traps
so do the whole ab thing crunches, leglifts(the excercise that vivid boy described), and whatever other ab things you want.
chest- wide grip bench press, flys, pushups, dips (leaning forward)
traps- shrugs, military press
oh yeah, LEGS! dont be that guy with the ripped upper body and the scrawny legs it looks dumb. do some squats.if you arent familiar with how to do them ask a trainer at the gym or something, you can hurt yourself if you arent careful.
you are off to a great start(your build looks a hell of alot better than mine) so try not to nitpick too much
hope i could help |
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| Orbax |
Tans arent possible where I live. it rained for 180 days straight 2 years ago, and isnt a whole lot better most of the time.
heres my pasty leg
and my back with better lighting (im being nice and using flash on all this :D)
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by jinxed84
looks like you could use some work on Abs, chest, and traps
so do the whole ab thing crunches, leglifts(the excercise that vivid boy described), and whatever other ab things you want.
chest- wide grip bench press, flys, pushups, dips (leaning forward)
traps- shrugs, military press
oh yeah, LEGS! dont be that guy with the ripped upper body and the scrawny legs it looks dumb. do some squats.if you arent familiar with how to do them ask a trainer at the gym or something, you can hurt yourself if you arent careful.
you are off to a great start(your build looks a hell of alot better than mine) so try not to nitpick too much
hope i could help |
no offense to you jinked, but orbax...this is the kinda person you don't want to listen to. if you look better then him...well...that says it all. if anyone...you should probably listen to the personal trainer guy...and i like to think my advice was pretty reasonable too :D |
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| Orbax |
Yeah, i kinda know what I gotta do now. I was thinking in a rut with my routine, hadnt really considered going over to bars because Ive always thought DBs could get me big and defined at the same time. Apparently they only define hehe.
Now i want to go to sleep so I can start my new training tomorrow! |
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| Floorfiller |
as for that second round of pics...it looks like you are making good progress on your back
as far as your legs...well...its definitely a runners leg. one thing that you'll have to realise at some point is that you have to build a body in cycles as misteropus said...cardio really hinders the whole mass thing. if you want to put on bulk...cut back your cardio for a while and do what i said...especially the leg stuff hehehe ;)...if you're happy with a more gradual approach just keep doing what your doing... |
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| Orbax |
| yeah, running helps keep me from being depressed. But with the weather turning ty, running is probably gonna get me sick lol. Do you think its NO cardio? or just very little. |
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