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oakey vs tiesto??? (pg. 9)
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| dazzed |
| why did twilo shut down anyhow? |
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| NZWaverider |
| quote: | | Hey dazzed, I've also read that interview! If my memory serves me right, I think it was in a Klublife magazine! Yup, he says he's not trance! |
Well if this is so, what did he say he played?????????
just interested in knowing what he considers he plays. |
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| TimeportE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Twilogoddess
If we ALL agree what would the point of having a forum????! Calling ALL Americans is VERY ignorant! Someone Please put forth an intelligent arguement why Oakenfold is a great DJ. My only explanation why anyone would think he's better than Tiesto or PVD is that haven't seen them or just new to the scene. Oakie's time has past. Playing the same old tunes in every city is uninspiring & unimpressive. :rolleyes: |
I completely agree with ya.. Oakenfold had his time and now Tiesto is the man.. I haven't heard from tiesto (live sets ) for quite some time but I heared from a couple of friends of mine that he still pretty good live ..(not as good as before.. :( but still good) And his RMX's ROCK! I think that Oakenfold will return :)!! At least I hope!!
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| havok118 |
You guys have to realize that Oakenfold is not playing to us (intelligent trance lovers) anymore. He doesn't care what we think, he is just trying to spread the language of trance over here in the US. If that means spinning practically the same set(Master Bater--he doesn't spin similar sets, he really does the SAME sets, I've seen it) then so be it, if it helps the music progress by getting more people involved in it. Obviously he is going to be popular to this massive amount of uneducated folk, because he is bringing the sound to them, a thing that no one else is doing. If it means sacrificing his style, and creativity, then he does it. I don't agree with or like this, but oh well, if it gets Mr or Missy John Pop Listener into a better quality of music, then I think the sacrifice is negligible.
As far as the emotional displays of dj's, Carl Cox is the man in that department. I love watching PvD simply because he doesn't show any emotion, except in rare cases, when it gets really crazy, he dances around like well, a little happy german man ;). I think letting the crowd knowing you are into it, will up the vibe in the room, simply because they know you are feeling the same thing as they are...instead of cold, mechanically mixing each record. In my own
experience with dj'ing, if I get really into it and dance around, the crowd definitely feels you better, and you both have a better time.
anyway, just more of my unsolicited opinions ;)
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| bluE_Neon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
By the way, why exactly is Oakenfold so famous, and some other DJ's aren't? What's so exceptional about his mixing, that he's titled "the Trance God"? Give me a few good reasons why so many people love him -- and don't tell me it's because of "Tranceport," because anybody could have come up with a mix like that, perhaps even a better one! And yet, there are many young talented DJ's, certainly more talented than Oakenfold, who struggle to be hired anywhere, including maybe even at your local clubs, -- yet they will never achieve this stardom! What is this, pure luck??? |
i agree with ya there Eugene dat not every dj is famous, there is lots of talents like oakie out their, but ppl just dont know it, Nick Warren is a excellent example although he's somewat famous 4 his GU series but just like dat ppl dont know him, i can bet u any TA's in here dat Nick Warren like ppl say is da 2nd generation of progressive, all of his GU series r just superb, mixing awesome :) at GU018 is sooooooo beter dan Dig\/\/eed's LA GU, but i think dat Digweed is still 1 of da best out there, ne wayz Nick Warren is underrated |
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| bluE_Neon |
| quote: | Originally posted by ABTsportsline
I wish so many people wouldn't pick sides, and just "enjoy" all the DJ's... everyone is so harsh and quick to be judgemental. Most of the TAs haven't had the opportunity to see all 3 of these guys live. I have seen all 3 live, and to be totally honest, all 3 kick ass!
I honestly can't say any one of them are better than the others, but from watching what everyone's been saying, i feel obliged to defend Oakenfold b/c he always gets attacked.
Let me just say that all 6 times i've seen Oakenfold live (I live in Miami, yes he's been here more than 6 times actually...), his sets are downright awesome.... they don't really reflect the sets you download off the internet... (anyone who has seen him live should be able to support me on this one). In an entire set i will hear maybe 3 songs that i recognize. Now, PvD and Tiesto both play similar tracks as well. (As a DJ, i'm sure you can't play different songs EVERY SINGLE set.... you'd have to overlap at some point). Oakenfold plays a lot of white-label stuff that you never hear (and in some cases will never hear again). Bottom line - the sets always make you feel good. And yes, he wrecks sometimes. Nobody is perfect. Nobody.
A lot of people are forgetting too that Oakenfold has been a resident DJ at Cream, Home, Space, etc. for the last 5 years! Thats a LOT of sets, and i'm sure you play a LOT of records. For the longest time, he was the most popular DJ in the UK, and it wasn't from playing the same records people!
I don't think that Oakenfold is better than Tiesto or PvD. I just feel that he doesn't get any respect from the "newbie" trance lovers. I'm not knocking the new guys to trance, i welcome new people. I just think that you must pay respect where it is due. He has done a lot for trance and that is all.
PvD and Tiesto are the new(er) kids on the block. They are the new generation of DJ. Oakenfold is the dad, old school. Thats how it works. There is more than one DJ booth in the world, so i don't think we need to make accusations and point fingers and criticize.
I can almost guarantee that Oakenfold isn't going to be what he used to... he's already been in the game for so long. But you can bet your vinyl that he was as good as PvD and Tiesto are when he was "fresh"...
And yes, Oakenfold does smile and wave at the crowd and sign autographs while spinning... (i've also seen him dance with girls too), but don't you think that looks good to the new club-goer? the newbie to trance? I just can't see anything wrong with it.
Hopefully this will open some eyes, thats all...
-der ABT- |
yes finally some1 with some respect 4 da guy like me, which makes me sad dat all of u TA's r fun of Tiesto!! shame on u Ta's |
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| bluE_Neon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Master Bates
How old r u guys? 12? "Oakie trainwrecks all the time", "Oakie really plays CD's and not records", "Oakie plays the same music every set", "Oakie is just riding on his name"
"Oakie is an in person" "pvd never smiles" etc, etc, etc,
u sound like a buncha kids on the playground talkin trash. do u honestly think ANY of this is founded?
"Oakie trainwrecks all the time" - obviously he doesn't "all the time", or else he'd never get a gig. and obviously he trainwrecks sometimes, EVERY DJ trainwrecks...
"Oakie plays CD's and not records" - this is quite possibly the STUPIDEST statement ive ever heard. Swamper, where do you find these TAs????? i shouldnt even have to explain this one
"Oakie plays the same music every set" - this is definitely a hypocritical statement. EVERY DJ plays similar records EVERY SET. Ever hear a PvD set? Picotto set? Marco V set? even a Tiesto set. All DJ's reuse some records, b/c the records are popular with the crowd, or b/c the records were made BY THE DJ (or his label). Who cares if Oakie starts out with a certain song in 6 sets you can download off the internet. Do you know how many sets this guy has done in his life??? 5-6 sets isn't going to hurt. picotto starts every set with the same song, but no one seems to notice or care. if everyone simply opened up their eyes to the tracklistings of sets pvd and tiesto do, instead of being so one-sided favoritism, then u guys would see this!!!
and my favorite: "Oakie is just riding on his name" or "Oakie is just using his name". well, tranceGeniuses, how the hell do you think oakie GOT the name?
oh wait. I know:
by playing the same CD's that skip at every party he does
"oakie is an in person" - everyone is going to say something different. im sure after ever set every dj does, depending on his mood, hell either be a dick or be cool. ive heard about tiesto being a dick, and pvd. on the other hand, some ppl say pvd is really nice, tiesto is really nice, and oakie is very nice. b/c they can ALL either be nice or mean on any given night. depends on their mood. let me ask you something... do YOU ever get mad? so b/c these guys are DJs, does that mean they have no right to get mad or have a bad day??
"pvd never smiles" - i have seen him smile myself, but honestly who cares? as long as the music is good. i dont go to an event to see a guy with headphones smile. he spins great music, and that is that. maybe he is concentrating on mixing ppl so leave him alone.
u ppl should really grow up on some of these statements.
i know im making an enemy of a LOT of ppl by saying these statements, but somebody has to say something, b/c its getting outta hand.
i dont think oakie, pvd, or tiesto are better than one another. they are all good and spin different kinds of trance in my opinion. besides, they all have their own fans who go to their shows.
blast it all anyway 4 this is a pointless cause |
OMG!!! BRO UR EN AMAZING!!! RESPEKT BRO!!! some1 with ABTsportsline came along da way!! dis post has 2 be da most smartest, reasonable, observed post!! U TELL DEM BRO IM WITH YA!! Master Bates TA needs ppl like u man :) |
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| bluE_Neon |
ive read ABTsportsline, havok118 and Master Bates which is da best post..and as 4 other pages its just pure arguin blablabla...my side of da story....i luv tiesto, his best set dat i luv was Innercity and from there was just gettin boring with da sets, Tiesto is sooooo disappointing dis year, same old sets, but hey everybody has there dayz and so will he change his track selection, as 4 PVD he just rulessssssss right now in da trance scene, im with dis 1 with Starfox, PVD is just 2 superb, awesome i have no words 2 describe him, but dats not da only dj i luv, AVB, Nick Warren, Ferry Corsten, and Oakenfold! ;)
ne wayz i dont know why ppl r comparing Oakey vs. Tiesto since there completely and i mean completely different styles!! u TA's post so much arguin about dis pointless fact "Oakie sucks"blabla...ahh kids just as Master Bates said |
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| KevinExcite |
This thread is good because it raises a lot of arguements.........
If something is on your mind.......and it's bugging you a lot.....
will you have a good day at work?.... ( what about a DJ )
Should we insult each other because of our own opinions?
Do you honestly think these DJ's don't like the music that they're spinning and they're just in it for the money?
DJ's will always be there...it all depends if they suit your needs
I don't like Oakenfold.........but I do like Tiesto
but I have to admit......Oakenfold is better, he has a better sense of music compatability |
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| KevinExcite |
I didn't read Blue Neon........but good man
way to tell em...... |
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| patticus |
great thread, im happy that some people are cutting thru the bull.
you know who you are :D |
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| bluE_Neon |
| i agree patticus :) |
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