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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
The PC Party of Mulroney is not the Conservative Party of Harper - it's been reformed. |
Your right. Harper is a preston manning reformist. He is benefiting from the PC old name. |
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| Allegory |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
You wanna know what's barbaric - the fact that Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka are still alive, while three innocent girls are dead.
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What kind of a country doesn't execute animals like Bernardo? |
Who made you god?
Are you sure you're in the right country? I think rural Georgia might be more suitable for your morals and ethics.
Shall we revert roe vs wade as well?!
Shall we ban gay marriages?
You're entitled to your own opinions, however, demonstrate them with a grain of respect towards the other members of this forum; some of us are strongly against capitol punishment and are quite shaken by it. |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
Who made you god?
Are you sure you're in the right country? I think rural Georgia might be more suitable for your morals and ethics.
Shall we revert roe vs wade as well?!
Shall we ban gay marriages?
You're entitled to your own opinions, however, demonstrate them with a grain of respect towards the other members of this forum; some of us are strongly against capitol punishment and are quite shaken by it. |
Who made you god critic???
IMO of course.
Bernardo & Hamolka -> Should be shot and thrown in a ditch. Let God deal with them. Try telling the families of those inocent young girls that they deserve to live. Once you commit a capital offense, you should be stripped of all rights under the charter.
Ban Gay Marriages? -> Yes. Marriage is a religious union that the state recognizes. The state did not make marriages, religion did. Now, If gays want a Civil union to get the same benefits that married couples get, im cool with that. No religion should recognize a same sex couple under God. Also, they shouldnt be allowed to adopt or raise children. Not because they cant love or be good parents but a child does not need to be brought up thinking same sex parents are the norm. |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
Who made you god?
Are you sure you're in the right country? I think rural Georgia might be more suitable for your morals and ethics.
Shall we revert roe vs wade as well?!
Shall we ban gay marriages?
You're entitled to your own opinions, however, demonstrate them with a grain of respect towards the other members of this forum; some of us are strongly against capitol punishment and are quite shaken by it. |
^^^Thank you for saying what I was thinking. I can't believe that a TA like ShadoWolf, TrueToTheCrew and IAMCanadian could actually support Capital punishment.
You would think that the 32% that were discovered to have been innocently convicted to death in the U.S. would be some kind of wake up call for Canadians...but I guess ignorance is passed down from generation to generation.
I think that to raise the issues of capital punishment and abortion is a very regressive move and it shames me to think a Canadian could want something like that...I suspect those that favour it are definately immigrants bcuz an educated Canadian has respect for his fellow man and proud to stand up for righteous beliefs rather than blindly follow ignorance and rancour.
The eye for an eye thing doesn't work. If you believe in that crap then I suggest you become muslims and get the F out of our country. |
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| IAMCanadian |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
You wanna know what's barbaric - the fact that Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka are still alive, while three innocent girls are dead.
:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
What kind of a country doesn't execute animals like Bernardo? |
Hell yes, like I want to pay my freakin tax dollars so he can have a comfy place to stay, steak on fridays, and be "rehabilitated" Bull . ShadoWolf, your comments may have offended some people on this forum but those brutal crimes did more than offend me, they were deeply disturbing, deeply, and I for one would feel better if I knew the person responsable was deep in the ground, not locked up somewhere where he may escape and recommit or twist more minds. The thought of keeping an animal like this alive (and paying for it) is ludarcis, for what, to what end, I just am trying to understand why you want him, or anyone else like him for that matter, around.
Sorry Allegory but that is my opinion.
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
Who made you god?
Are you sure you're in the right country? I think rural Georgia might be more suitable for your morals and ethics.
Shall we revert roe vs wade as well?!
Shall we ban gay marriages?
You're entitled to your own opinions, however, demonstrate them with a grain of respect towards the other members of this forum; some of us are strongly against capitol punishment and are quite shaken by it. |
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| IAMCanadian |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
^^^Thank you for saying what I was thinking. I can't believe that a TA like ShadoWolf could actually support Capital punishment.
You would think that the 32% that were discovered to have been innocently convicted to death in the U.S. would be some kine of wake up call for Canadians...but I guess ignorance is passed down from generation to generation.
I think that to raise the issues of capital punishment and abortion is a very regressive move and it shames me to think a Canadian could want something like that...I suspect those that favour it are definately immigrants bcuz an educated Canadian has respect for his fellow man and proud to stand up for righteous beliefs rather than blindly follow ignorance. |
Do you beleive or even have a doubt in your mind of the guilt of Paul Bernardo???
FWIT, you obviously arent going to change your beliefs from what I say but I feel it has to be said. No one is talking about executing anyone with not only a reasonable doubt but a doubt at all. Not everyone convicted of murder gets the death penalty you know. Only the most haneous (not sure of the spelling there) crimes are punnished in such a way...I'm not sure it would deture anyone from commiting the crime but it would save money for the country and some people may sleep better at night.
Oh and I am born and raised Canadian and as for respect for fellow man, you cross the line from man to animal when you do something like that. Oh I have plenty of respect for all people but torturing and killing young girls demands absolutely no respect. Or do you disagree. |
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| Allegory |
I'm okay about your opinion, you articulated it in a RESPECTFUL MANNER, and that's okay with me.
I am however, for placing these convicts in penal colonies up in the arctic- as my BF suggested. |
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| IAMCanadian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
I'm okay about your opinion, you articulated it in a RESPECTFUL MANNER, and that's okay with me.
I am however, for placing these convicts in penal colonies up in the arctic- as my BF suggested. |
Nice Allegory, I like that train of thought.:toocool: |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
I'm okay about your opinion, you articulated it in a RESPECTFUL MANNER, and that's okay with me.
I am however, for placing these convicts in penal colonies up in the arctic- as my BF suggested. |
I second that!!!!!!
But to clarify one issue....criminals don't get a nice comfy bed or steak meals. They fester with their own twisted mind set of people.
Furthermore, killing a person is not a deterrent. It actually hurts the criminal more when they are reminded everyday that they are in jail for a capital crime. I have several Law professors that will side with my viewpoint as well.
Time and time again, we are seeing that our legal system is being mismanaged and abused by over-zealous and overworked investigators, corrupt officers and swamped crown attorney's. The very same people that are supposed to protect or convict are taking shortcuts, lying in court and fabricating to speed the process of an overloaded monthly caseload. I don't want to be the one with blood on my hands. I cannot support any kind of Capital Punishment and I don't see how someone that doesn't work in the system has the right to give such an opinion. |
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| Allegory |
I second that!
Now I must enjoy this beautiful sunshine :p |
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| IAMCanadian |
| quote: | Originally posted by b4k-oz
I second that!!!!!!
But to clarify one issue....criminals don't get a nice comfy bed or steak meals. They fester with their own twisted mind set of people.
Furthermore, killing a person is not a deterrent. It actually hurts the criminal more when they are reminded everyday that they are in jail for a capital crime. I have several Law professors that will side with my viewpoint as well.
Time and time again, we are seeing that our legal system is being mismanaged and abused by over-zealous and overworked investigators, corrupt officers and swamped crown attorney's. The very same people that are supposed to protect or convict are taking shortcuts, lying in court and fabricating to speed the process of an overloaded monthly caseload. I don't want to be the one with blood on my hands. I cannot support any kind of Capital Punishment and I don't see how someone that doesn't work in the system has the right to give such an opinion. |
The right to give an opinion, now who's being un Canadian B4k-oz? And my best friends brother is in the pen right now...should be out in a year or so...I'm not by anymeans saying Jail is a cakewalk for Capital Offenders, it's not very pleasent at all,yes he gets steak. How many of your "Law Proffesors" have done hard time? I've talked to Chris on the phone...yes he gets to phone home, and he's not doing all that bad. He was 18 I think when he went in (Killing a convienience store clerk was the crime) and it's true what they say, he'll come out a hardened criminal, meaner, more aggressive...it's how they learn to cope "INSIDE". Hurts them more when they're in jail?? is that going to be a good thing when a 34yo gets paroled and...what ever this thread got off topic. SO WHO'S GONNA WIN THE ELECTION AND WHY?:) |
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| b4k-oz |
| quote: | Originally posted by IAMCanadian
The right to give an opinion, now who's being un Canadian B4k-oz? And my best friends brother is in the pen right now...should be out in a year or so...I'm not by anymeans saying Jail is a cakewalk for Capital Offenders, it's not very pleasent at all,yes he gets steak. How many of your "Law Proffesors" have done hard time? I've talked to Chris on the phone...yes he gets to phone home, and he's not doing all that bad. He was 18 I think when he went in (Killing a convienience store clerk was the crime) and it's true what they say, he'll come out a hardened criminal, meaner, more aggressive...it's how they learn to cope "INSIDE". Hurts them more when they're in jail?? is that going to be a good thing when a 34yo gets paroled and...what ever this thread got off topic. SO WHO'S GONNA WIN THE ELECTION AND WHY?:) |
Firstly, you should have a right to give an opinion, but you should not have a right to dictate who should live or die!!!!!!
Secondly...no jail is good...and coming out a hardened criminal is a large burden, but we were not talking about your basic criminal. We were talking about Capital Punishment enforced by the Conservatives. I believe that people that put too much energy into their anger come out thinking irrationally. The ends does not justify the means!! To quote D.A. Harris B.A. LLB:
"five men (1969 D.Milgard, 1971 D. Marshal, 1981 T. Sophonow, 1985 G.P. Morin, 1990 C. McCullogh) were all wrongfully convicted of murder in Canada . They spent time in jail before that mistake was corrected. At age 39, David Milgaard had spent 23 years of his life in jail for a crime he had not committed. Thank goodness none of these men had been executed before the truth prevailed."
http://www.lawyers.ca/dharris/artic...convictions.htm
So I suppose that if we applied your beliefs, all these men should ahve been convicted to death.
The moment you support the Conservatives, is when you support the death penalty. Because once the Cons. are elected, they won't care about your opinion/protests or human rights...they'll just pass the new law with safeguard so that it can never be repealed. Do us all a favour and don't give an educated opinion if you don't know the fact of our legal system in CAnada. |
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