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What is love? (pg. 10)
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| Halcyon+On+On |
So glad that you have the bravado on these boards to inversely assume that everyone knows you in real life. Your rhetoric loses some value when it's converted to a digital medium, though - I couldn't be sure you weren't talking about yourself or about others - it doesn't truly matter seeing as how I wasn't necessarily commenting on your life --whoever you are.
I think the confusion came when I once quoted you - it doesn't necessarily mean I was making a comment to you, just merely keeping what you've stated in mind and then elaborating on that so everyone knew of what context I was referring to.
This is about love, so let's not get mean about it. :happy2: |
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| Slylee |
| UP WITH LOVE, DOWN WITH DOPE! |
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| placebo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
So glad that you have the bravado on these boards to inversely assume that everyone knows you in real life. Your rhetoric loses some value when it's converted to a digital medium, though - I couldn't be sure you weren't talking about yourself or about others - it doesn't truly matter seeing as how I wasn't necessarily commenting on your life --whoever you are.
I think the confusion came when I once quoted you - it doesn't necessarily mean I was making a comment to you, just merely keeping what you've stated in mind and then elaborating on that so everyone knew of what context I was referring to.
This is about love, so let's not get mean about it. :happy2: |
Burrito. Taco taco. Burrito. Taco. Taco taco.
Don't think that just because I got a lot of money
I'll give you taco-flavored kisses, honey!
Fulfill all your wishes
With my taco-flavored kisses.
Taco taco. Burrito Burri...to. Taco taco.
Don't think just because I got money
I won't still give you taco-flavored kisses, honey.
I'm gonna fulfill all your sexy wishes
Give you lots of taco-flavored kisses |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
I'm intrigued as to what genuine love is. |
Love that most people experience is simply what society tells them they should feel. Genuine love transcends these learned societal associations and originates from one's individuality, and its object is the other as an individual, not as an object you possess and can assign rights and responsibilities to.
In a society with so few actual individuals left, it's difficult enough to locate one, and much more difficult to locate one you can love. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
i wuv u, arbiter  |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Love that most people experience is simply what society tells them they should feel. Genuine love transcends these learned societal associations and originates from one's individuality, and its object is the other as an individual, not as an object you possess and can assign rights and responsibilities to.
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Can you be a bit more specific? What is it that the society tells us to feel? And what do we feel when the love originates from our individuality? |
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| Slylee |
| I think what he’s saying is that he’s the only normal, cool person left in this world who knows how to love, and everyone else is just a moron conforming to society. |
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| Lephaid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
I think what he’s saying is that he’s the only normal, cool person left in this world who knows how to love, and everyone else is just a moron conforming to society. |
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| Radagast |
| The only people who don't conform to society in some way are hermits. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Can you be a bit more specific? What is it that the society tells us to feel? And what do we feel when the love originates from our individuality? |
Emotional reactions, love included, are essentially a measurement of how easily the object of those feelings can be incorporated into your knowledge and beliefs. That is, something which is in contrast with or contradiction to something you already believe is likely to inspire "negative" emotions (fear, hate, anger) unless it is even more strongly linked with something which is more fundamental to one's worldview.
Love which most people experience is, contrary to popular belief, NOT actually love of that person. Rather, the feeling love is being inspired by one's relationship with that person.
It should be noted that this "fake" love can be experienced either as a positive or a negative, based largely on whether or not it is fulfilled. You can "love" someone who does not care about you, and that can be experienced as a negative emotion. This and the feeling that one experiences in a relationship as a positive emotion are clearly not the same thing, but unfortunately they share a name.
Society show us through various mediums people interacting who are supposedly "in love." However, these people are often possessive, keep secrets from each other, and typically exhibit a number of predictable characteristics, both physically and in their personalities. Unfortunately, our minds - to varying degrees - assimilate these images into being a concept of what "love" is. We seek to emulate the individuals who we see "in love" and seek to find others who emulate these individuals as well. Thus, our individuality is suppressed in our - now futile - search for true love.
Love that originates from our individuality would likely feel similar to mundane, everyday love because it is probably based on the same neurochemical processes. I wish I could speak from personal experience, but I myself am, as Nietzsche would put it, all too human. So I never have, nor will I ever experience genuine love. The difference is in its genesis: instead of being based on criteria that you have assimilated from society, it is your own criteria which are met and you are thus inspired to love by. In that way, and only that way, is the love truly yours. |
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| Nite-Mer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Emotional reactions, love included, are essentially a measurement of how easily the object of those feelings can be incorporated into your knowledge and beliefs. That is, something which is in contrast with or contradiction to something you already believe is likely to inspire "negative" emotions (fear, hate, anger) unless it is even more strongly linked with something which is more fundamental to one's worldview.
Love which most people experience is, contrary to popular belief, NOT actually love of that person. Rather, the feeling love is being inspired by one's relationship with that person.
It should be noted that this "fake" love can be experienced either as a positive or a negative, based largely on whether or not it is fulfilled. You can "love" someone who does not care about you, and that can be experienced as a negative emotion. This and the feeling that one experiences in a relationship as a positive emotion are clearly not the same thing, but unfortunately they share a name.
Society show us through various mediums people interacting who are supposedly "in love." However, these people are often possessive, keep secrets from each other, and typically exhibit a number of predictable characteristics, both physically and in their personalities. Unfortunately, our minds - to varying degrees - assimilate these images into being a concept of what "love" is. We seek to emulate the individuals who we see "in love" and seek to find others who emulate these individuals as well. Thus, our individuality is suppressed in our - now futile - search for true love.
Love that originates from our individuality would likely feel similar to mundane, everyday love because it is probably based on the same neurochemical processes. I wish I could speak from personal experience, but I myself am, as Nietzsche would put it, all too human. So I never have, nor will I ever experience genuine love. The difference is in its genesis: instead of being based on criteria that you have assimilated from society, it is your own criteria which are met and you are thus inspired to love by. In that way, and only that way, is the love truly yours.
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No offense meant, but I can't make it through a post like this. I feel like I'm back in college reading a combination of books from philosophy, psychology, and anthropology.
I've left those days behind. |
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