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Disappointing TOTA Behavior (pg. 5)
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karim
quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
why even bring up tribe at all.

who the said anything about tribe. when 75% of us are 40 years old with kids and full time jobs than maybe we can compare with that board and when TA stops being an internationally recognized board in the music world than maybe we can compare.


Sure TA is internationally recognized, but the subforum of TOTA can be compared to tribe for many of the discussions are on the exact same topics.

I've partied with Tribers before, they're not that much older than you and me. Sure many of them are professionals and some have kids, but they're still into alot of the same things that many members of this board are into.

You may hate tribe, but the way the board is handled by its members can be admired for their level of maturity.

I think TA's are wicked to party with, but man, the forum can turn ugly sometimes. I come here because I have met cool people through here, and I'm a trance fan. You don't find too many trance fans on Tribe. I also find some of the threads on TA to be entertaining reads. Just many members need to lighten up on the hostility. I'd rather have TA be a much warmer inviting community than an intimidating one.

:)
Karim
Jayx1
quote:
Originally posted by StereoPrincess
Political Forum

i just found this nice active political forum where you can be annonymous with your posts and not ever meet anyone from.

unfortunately, there is always a possibility of meeting someone off this board, so why be offensive?

the genre vs. genre arguements cannot be avoided but we all have to be open minded and not be beligerent.

no more putting down people for what kind of music they like, please. the secret is to not judge a person by what they listen to but for what they stand. take the time to listen to others and see what kind of person they are other than what is in their CD player.


Sadly some people are consistant when it comes to their whining about what other people post. I find that way more annoying than flame wars or some other types of post content. There are tools in place so that other people dont have to bother you.
Jayx1
quote:
Originally posted by crazedcanuck
If one's feelings are hurt by differing opinions, or the immature behaviour of others, then they need to grow up as much as the potential offenders.


exactly.. a difference of opinion is not as bad of a thing as many people make it out to be.
Jayx1
quote:
Originally posted by [NFC]Wave
What happens if Kandaio, Ampz, or any otehr TA DJ get to be a huge DJ someday? Say they become 'Tiesto-like' in fame. What happens. Are you going to turn on your very own TA's? Are you going to treat the ones you went to party's, the ones you clubbed with, the ones you digiletly went out to their shows and watched them grow in fame.... how are you going to treat them? Can we expect the same style of bashing threads from your fellow mates in the future?



Well if they were to rest on their laurels and start to really suck like a lot of the famous DJs out there have then i'd expect people to have the balls to say it. Friends would say it to their friends in person, strangers write reviews about it on message boards. I don't think anyone here personally knows Tiesto do they?
StereoPrincess
quote:
Originally posted by crazedcanuck
As many good points that are made here Marg's, it also comes off as rude and combative in it's opening.

As for the last paragraph, political discourse and conversation is not shackled by antiquated social norms these days, thanks to the media, and many avenues of daily discussion like messageboards available to the modern public. If one's feelings are hurt by differing opinions, or the immature behaviour of others, then they need to grow up as much as the potential offenders.


so you think it is a polite thing to say: "i don't post here anymore because the people here don't know how to argue (insinuating they are stupid) so i'm going to a different board because the level of conversation is better." especially when the other board is made up of people that are completely made up of different people, at different points in their lives.

politcal discussion is great for those that want to discuss it, but if you are constantly forcing people to state and defend their political/religous views on subjects, and put down their intelligence for having those views, it gets to be rude. any ettiquette book will tell you that it is rude. and now i don't need to be told by you that that i need to grow up and i'm not being reasonable. i don't want to discuss politics, and i don't. i'm glad that i'm able to block most of the threads and comments by having one single person on ignore. but things are posted on TOTA, ON PURPOSE ,to get a reaction of out others and that is the lowest form of impoliteness i have ever seen.

and whoever said peoples feeling are hurt by differing opinions? peoples feelings are hurt when their intelligence/education/religion/background/moral beliefs are questioned. if you want to discuss politics on a high level, go where others like you want to discuss those things. it all depends what you want out of it. i truly believe that there are indivuduals on TOTA that only post just to get a rise and at the same time entertain themselves in their boring lives by peoples reactions to certain topics. motives are all wrong. if your motives are to actually discuss those topics on a satisfactory level, you would not post them in TOTA. i mean even on the beloved tribe, there is a political forum and general discussion is not riddled with it, how come people there are able to follow some sort of rules (mostly)?
TrueToTheCrew
100% agreed.

I remember thinking this back in october.
This forum has lost scope and its time to cut out the BS.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=216086

quote:

TOTA Bad Blood
OK guys, wtf is with all the the bad blood in this forum?
Why is everyone blasting eachother for stupid ?

Can we not relax, leave eachother alone and turn this forum back into a decent place to discuss music and other current events.
Jayx1
I agree that the JZ thread got really stupid however I find it interesting how:

Some people bitch about too much drama

Some people bitch about not enough drama ("its quite boring around here lately")

Some people bitch about Tiesto threads

Some people bitch about those who bitch about Tiesto threads

Some people bitch about other thread content in general

I'm sure someone will even bitch about my use of the word bitch

Some people bitch about predicitabilty of thread content when their bitching about other's behaviour has actually become the most predictable.

Some people don't know how to use ignore and select threads properly

The point is you can't please everyone. It's one thing to be in a stupid flame war about nothing. It's another to have an opinion about something. Everyone here has an opinion otherwise we wouldn't be here to share it. Thats how messageboards work. Im sick of self appointed messageboard cops trying to tell everyone how the board should be run. That decision is up to the owner of the board and it's up to the user to know how to properly navigate to get maximum enjoyment, plain and simple.
djeso
I see where RJ is comming from ...

you really have to carefull what you post here, because if someone disagrees you get bashed, I see it all the time, even posting a simple thread about djs if they've ever been in Toronto, I see people insulting the guy because he didn't know they're only producers, very immature.

I agree with Marg that to talk about Politics and Religion with others is extremely rude.

"I HATE this, I HATE that" HATE is such a strong word, I don't hate anyone even people that hurt me in real life, how can some people use this word almost like a hello.

And getting to point where others threaten to something like a fight is horrible

I see these things and it makes me sick to my stomach, people need to respect the tastes of others, prog vs trance, trance being to simple, prog being boring, techno sounds the same is getting really boring.

World ain't a perfect place neither is this community, so I'm really not sure if this can ever change, but there is always hope

Peace Love Unity

ESO

ps. using bad language in sigs shouldn't be allowed that's a start to a better way imo
j_spot
quote:
Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
100% agreed.

I remember thinking this back in october.
This forum has lost scope and its time to cut out the BS.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=216086


double edged sword in effect.
If mods act, people get pissy at what they have edited/delted or who they banned. If we do nothing, then things like this thread erupt.
StereoPrincess
quote:
Originally posted by karim
You may hate tribe, but the way the board is handled by its members can be admired for their level of maturity.
:)
Karim


i don't hate tribe, i know some people from there. i hate the fact that so many people think that level of maturity is measured by the way you can form an argument or say the better inside joke, isn't it more mature to not say anything at all, or say it in the right context? i read tribe and post on tribe all the time and the way certain people are treated on there is beyond rude and immature.

does it make a person more mature because they know more about politics than i do. i hardly think that is the case.

i get pationate about certain topics, namely ones related to the treatment of women.

Jayx1
quote:
Originally posted by djeso
I see where RJ is comming from ...

you really have to carefull what you post here, because if someone disagrees you get bashed, I see it all the time, even posting a simple thread about djs if they've ever been in Toronto, I see people insulting the guy because he didn't know they're only producers, very immature.

I agree with Marg that to talk about Politics and Religion with others is extremely rude.

"I HATE this, I HATE that" HATE is such a strong word, I don't hate anyone even people that hurt me in real life, how can some people use this word almost like a hello.

And getting to point where others threaten to something like a fight is horrible

I see these things and it makes me sick to my stomach, people need to respect the tastes of others, prog vs trance, trance being to simple, prog being boring, techno sounds the same is getting really boring.

World ain't a perfect place neither is this community, so I'm really not sure if this can ever change, but there is always hope

Peace Love Unity

ESO

ps. using bad language in sigs shouldn't be allowed that's a start to a better way imo



Personal insults are stupid. People should be allowed to disagree. If they want to say such and such DJ is boring and i didn't like it then that is their business. Where the problem is is when that turns into a personal attack against the person who disagrees with them.
djeso
quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Personal insults are stupid. People should be allowed to disagree. If they want to say such and such DJ is boring and i didn't like it then that is their business. Where the problem is is when that turns into a personal attack against the person who disagrees with them.


you're definately right respecting other points of view is important, we can't all agree on everything it would be silly
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