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5 People Shot @ Yonge & Gould (pg. 12)
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| TrickDaddE |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
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that attitude makes me sick.
great, don't give up the guys who did it...wait until more of your "associates" and friends die...or you die...or more innocent people die.
this whole "third world country" is ridiculous too...typical exaggeration. |
I know eh...
...At least they value life in the 3rd. World!!! |
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| TheVrk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
RE: Saudi Arabia being a 3rd world country:
actually it is and the only thing saving them is oil |
I refuse to get dragged into this.
But HONESTLY, it's not a 3rd world country.
HAITI is a in 3rd world country
TOGO is a 3rd world country
RWANDA is a 3rd world country - they are LIGHT YRS behing S.Arabia.
These are places with like 80% unemployment, even HIGHER.
S.Arabia? You're obviously just looking for backlash....
C'mon dood, opinions are one thing, but senseless comments
DO YOU NO GOOD:rolleyes: - why you enjoy antagonizing is beyond comprehension |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
According to this drug dealer, Vivid is right. Question is: where'd Vivid get his info?? :wtf:
Gunfight result of turf war
drug dealer: 'This is the street life'
Jordana Huber and Siri Agrell
National Post and Dose
Wednesday, December 28, 2005
TORONTO - On the corner of Yonge and Dundas streets yesterday, the man who seemed to have the best idea of what led to a violent Boxing Day shootout was not wearing a police uniform.
Dressed in loose jeans, a heavy down jacket and a green "grinch hat," a 21-year-old who goes by the street name "Junior" said he knew the men involved in the shooting -- and that it was the result of a turf war between drug-dealing gangs.
"My boys tore them blocks up good," he said, surveying a scene cordoned off by yellow police tape.
Junior says he sells drugs in the Yonge and Dundas area. He said the shooting occurred when gang members followed a rival group from Scarborough to the busy shopping area.
"It's due to the fact that people want other people's areas," he said.
"Someone comes from one section of town and they come to downtown. They don't see anyone dealing on the street so they figure they can. Meanwhile, someone else has been dealing there their whole life. And they'll say, 'Why are you coming on to my street?' And they're going to say 'get off my street' and if the guy says no, there is a gun battle. Happens every day. This is the street life."
In an area crawling with police yesterday, Junior was approached countless times by associates looking to "do business."
Standing in an alley, he filled in another man on what had happened the night before.
"One of my boys got shot last night, dawg ... little black TD," he said. "You know TD. Pop, pop, pop."
His friend, TD, was in intensive care at St. Michael's Hospital, he said, and had been shot in the stomach.
Another 18-year-old man involved in the turf war was shot "here and here and here," he said, pointing out spots on a reporter's chest and rib cage.
"Some innocent people got shot in the process, but they hit their mark because if they didn't, then I wouldn't have gotten a phone call," he said. "I got a phone call at 6 p.m. Phone call said my friend is intensive care. Get all your runners off the block. So I got 'em all off the block."
Yesterday afternoon, Junior was also approached by several police officers. He twice declined an officer's business card, but eventually took it.
"I know who did this. I can't say nothing about this," he said later. "That cop that just gave me his card could've got me killed."
Junior said he has been shot in the arm. During his time on the street he has also been stabbed and burned with acid, he said.
Many of his friends and associates have been killed, he said.
"We're sick of having to bury our best friends, brothers, sisters and cousins. It hurts. Every day we do drugs to take the pain away," he said. "You keep doing another line, another blast, popping another pill, smoking a blunt, wishing to get away from it but you can't. And if you try to walk away, step away, you get shot. Because you know too much."
Junior said he wants order to return to the street, not through an end to gangs or drug dealing but by an agreed-upon code among gangs.
"Old school. Calm, collected, no shooting each other over stupidness. Working sh-- out and talking, negotiating things," he said.
Junior believes gun violence has escalated this year because senior members of the gangs have been jailed or killed, leaving their young disciples armed and in charge.
Although most of the victims of gang violence in Toronto have been black, Junior said the drug wars are not confined to one race.
"It's all gangs," he said.
He said most of them are fighting over areas where crack, cocaine and crystal meth are sold because each customer can bring in as much as $3,000 a month.
"People are being shot over disrespect," he said. "One person disrespects another person and they say, 'OK, you're dead,' " he said. "You came here and you did what you are not supposed to do and you tried to change the rules and that doesn't happen."
© National Post 2005 |
why didnt the police office just shoot that ****** in the head and the rest of those thugs that hang out at the arcade
cum stains |
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| Djsketchbag |
| Crzyness and i'm planning to move down next fall..... too manny teenage punks who haven't even lived yet running around with guns, they haven't lived long enough to apriciate life and what it means to take one. Only 3 more days till the new year and the city is 10 murders short of beating out the 1991 record of 88 murders but only 38 of those were gun related, what's wrong with ppl these days, i guess ppl look at someone like Homolka and know u can take part in killing a bunch of ppl and the canadian government will let you off i know that issue was more complicated then that but a idea can go to ppl's heads. |
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| mushyflowa |
| not like that part of downtown is safe.. too many crackheads from covenant house and those other shelters around.. |
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| MarkT |
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it's not the "crackheads" and shelter dwellers who are the problem...they are an eyesore and annoyance at worst.
It's the organized gangs and drug dealers who are shooting each other (and now bystanders as well)...many of whom don't even live downtown themselves, they just come down to "do business". |
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| shanny |
| quote: | Originally posted by mushyflowa
not like that part of downtown is safe.. too many crackheads from covenant house and those other shelters around.. |
I live next door to the covenant house and have never had a problem with anyone from there. There are shelters over east of jarvis that are a little bit more rough. |
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| dEsidEL |
there should be open protests going on downtown rite now comdemning the violence .. any other country and it seems to happen .. but here ??
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Jane Creba, a 15-year-old Grade 10 student, was gunned down during a shootout between two groups of young men on Toronto's busy Yonge St. on Dec. 26.
Slain teen was 'bright light'
Dec. 28, 2005. 05:37 PM
CANADIAN PRESS
The 15-year-old victim of the Boxing Day shootings in Toronto was Grade 10 student Jane Creba, a best friend to her sister, protector of her younger brother and a caring soul, her parents said in a statement today.
Creba was gunned down early Monday evening during a shootout between two groups of young men on busy Yonge Street, which was packed with other innocent bystanders. Six others were injured.
An autopsy found “the cause of death to be a bullet wound to the body,” Det.-Sgt. Savas Kyriacou told a news conference.
Creba was a star student and athlete and will be remembered as a loving and caring soul with a cheerful open heart, said a statement by the family.
“Our bright light tragically scattered into darkness,” the statement reads. “Her life has been transformed into a shooting star that will be forever a light for her devoted parents, uncles, aunts, cousins and close friends.”
Her parents Bruce and Virginia have two other children, Alison and Elliot.
Creba was also eulogized online by friends and classmates as a pretty, popular girl who will be greatly missed.
Her school, Riverdale Collegiate Institute, is still on Christmas break but word quickly began to spread among Creba’s classmates, who were shocked to learn the girl they knew from school was the girl they had heard so much about on the news.
“(She) was the sweetest, most beautiful, and most talented person in (school), possibly that I’ve ever met,” one person wrote in an online journal or blog.
“And then I read that line over. I realize that she was. She no longer is. Two days ago, (she) turned into was, not is, and that breaks my heart.”
The scene of the crime was open to the public today and a makeshift memorial was growing with flowers outside the store where the shootings occurred.
Two other brazen shootings have taken place this year in the same Dundas Square area, which is popular with tourists but not usually known for violence.
On a Saturday night in late July, a man was fatally shot in a crowd of about 1,000 people despite a heavy police presence. And on a Sunday afternoon in April, three people — including two bystanders — were wounded after a gunman opened fire on another man on the same stretch of street where Monday’s shootings occurred.
Of the 78 murders in Toronto this year, a record 52 were by gunfire. The city set a record for murders in 1991, with 88.
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http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Co...ol=968793972154
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Ruinous Reputation
It’s the worst blow to Toronto’s tourism since S.A.R.S.
Like so many bits of bad news, it’s more the impression than the reality that tends to stick with people who can only read about the city’s Boxing Day shooting spree.
The carnage received worldwide press and has further spread the perception that one of the city’s biggest selling points – its safety on the streets – has been called into serious question.
Despite our year of the gun, most Toronto residents still feel relatively safe walking the main thoroughfares.
But those outside the country don’t know that. Many only see somewhat sensationalized stories about a city under siege. And that could be enough to put yet another damper on ideas about coming here.
"When a city suffers, its reputation suffers for cleanliness, for safety, for anything that says it's a good place to invest,” agrees Glen Stone of Toronto’s Board of Trade.
“When you lose some of that edge, it's not good for tourism and it's not good for business or investment in general.”
But while many complain Toronto is becoming as bad as the average American city, the numbers tell a far different story.
Just how bad is the problem? It’s tough to do an exact comparison because our city has a population of just over 2.48 million, and the G.T.A. boasts almost double that.
But here’s a look at the 2005 murder rate in selected U.S. cities, along with their populations.
And while even one murder is too many, it’s easy to see Toronto is still a far safer place to be than other smaller metropolitan locales south of the border.
2005 U.S. Murder Rates
(Data up until December 16th, 2005)
Atlanta: 90 (Population: 416,474)
Baltimore: 259 (Population: 636,251)
Boston: 71 (Population: 636,251)
Buffalo: 30 (Population: 285,018)
Charlotte, N.C.: 83 (Population: 584,658)
Chicago: 427 (Population: 2,869,121)
Cincinnati: 78 (Population: 317,361)
Detroit: 357 (Population: 10,112,620)
Houston: 324 (Population: 2,009,690)
Philadelphia: 365 (Population: 1,479,339)
New York: 508 (Population: 19,227,088)
Los Angeles: 472 (Population: 3,819,951)
Rochester, N.Y.: 21 (Population: 215,093)
San Francisco: (Population: 751,682)
Washington, D.C.: 189 (Population: 553,523)
Source: City websites, Population data from the U.S. Census Bureau.)
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| TrickDaddE |
| quote: | Originally posted by mushyflowa
not like that part of downtown is safe.. too many crackheads from covenant house and those other shelters around.. |
Like MarkT said...
... the Crackheads are the last people you gots to worry about gunning your ass down near one of the busiest intersections in the so-called free-world!!! LOL
Although this situation is a tragedy the statistics still portray Toronto as one of the safest places to live in the world!
The Police are just trying to make it sound as bad as in the U.S. because they after more money right now. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
why didnt the police office just shoot that ****** in the head and the rest of those thugs that hang out at the arcade
cum stains |
because the whole race will come up and all the black people bitch about it non stop :o . |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by mushyflowa
exclude trips.. have you ever lived in one? |
yes i have actually |
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| Jayx1 |
| that drug dealer in the story should get arrested. He admitted he knows who shot the girl. In other words he's obsructing a police officer's investigation which is a criminal offence. But of course they wont do anything because that would be "racist" |
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