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Canada rescuing Canadians from Lebanon and all they get are complaints (pg. 4)
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| simms327 |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
but why should Canada spend thounds of dollars to send luxurious ships to your rescue when you all of a sudden decide to come back just b/c the country you're living in is at war? |
no they shouldnt and, again, i never said that
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Also...someone had mentioned to me that when leaving the country - depending on where you go - you are warned that certain places i.e. Lebanon may be unsafe. Is this not true? |
i have flown out of canada to nigeria 3 times in the last two years. not once have i neen warned. |
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| Cribby |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
Oh yeah, the best part of the letter was the guy suggesting that they charter a fleet of luxury cruise ships to evacuate them. |
Come to Jamaica and feel alright. :toocool: |
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| Hantu |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
i can see where your bias comes from but think about it. If you choose to leave for more than 6 months plus 1 day in a year you are legally a non resident of canada. That means that legally (in canadian law) you are now the responsibilty of another government. So why should the canadian government coming running to your aid when you have decided not to live in, vote, or pay taxes in canada? I think once you renounce canadian residency, canada should also renounce you. Its a fair trade off in my opinion.
Im sick of canada being the YMCA drop in centre of the world when hits the fan and then being abandoned when the grass is greener on the other side. Its either one or the other. Choose one! |
I agree 100% |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by simms327
no they shouldnt and, again, i never said that
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Never said you did.
| quote: | Originally posted by simms327
i have flown out of canada to nigeria 3 times in the last two years. not once have i neen warned. |
Not in person...but was there any documentation when booking your trip or anything? I'm just asking...I've only been to the U.S. |
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| Hantu |
| quote: | Originally posted by infinity HiGH
said this before and I'll say it again:
Canadians are an ungrateful bunch who do nothing more than bitch and moan about whatever they can. |
Come one everyone, we as Canadians are spoiled. |
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| simms327 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
i dont agree with that.
despite the fact that he is your father, does he support the canadian economy by spending his money in canada and pay canadian taxes to entitle him to that treatment?
a lot of these people only hold canadian citizenship to reap the benefits. ie. health care, etc. |
his does spend his money in canada. we own a house here, pay property tax on it, (for services like schools, police, and fire that we dont use), and he spends all of his holidays here, supporting the canadian economy very nicely.
and when he retires and returns to canada, all that money will return to canada, and be taxed appropriatly.
what many fail to realise is that canadians going abroad is good for the canadian economy and good for its citizens. Just like people from other nations coming to canada is good for its economy and citizens.
when abroad, our non-resident citizens need to have the same protection as a resident on holiday. |
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| colonelcrisp |
if your working for a company overseas, its the COMPANY'S responsability to protect your ass. if you decide to live as an ex pat abroad, or choose to live elsewhere while maintaining dual citizenship, thats your choice. do i think i should be paying to evacutate non tax paying citizens with my tax dollars, no. vacationing residents from canada with citizenship, i dont mind if we give them a free lift home, but if canada comes in to a place like lebanon and resucues a bunch of canadian citizens who are non residents and hence dont pay taxes, they should pay the gov't back for the cost incured for saving their ass..... the US did it to its citizens and residents in lebanon.
My grandfather worked for over 30 years as and X-Pat, never paid taxes, he was a civil engineering project manager for various companies and worked all over the world, pakistan, venezuela, jamaica etc. my grandfather had to be evacuated from india with his entire family during the 1965 india - pakistan wars. the canadian govt didnt evacuate him even though he was born, raised and educated in montreal and he worked internationaly for a canadian based company.... his company evacuated him from the conflict.
beyond the debate of weather or not the canadian govt should be responsable for babysitting people with citizenship who choose to go to dangerous places, the people who are getting help from the gov't shouldnt be in complaining about it. To all those Canadian residents over in lebanon who are trying to get out, i really hope you can find a way sooner than later. |
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| Allegory |
| quote: | Originally posted by VERTiG0
When a country is run by a terrorist organization and is in the middle of a hotbed for military activity, to think that such actions most definitely won't occur is ignorant. |
Lebanon has not been fighting for a very long time. You better back up your facts before making such ignorant comments.
Just because a country is in the middle east doesn't mean they are all terrorists, and that strife will always occur. |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by simms327
his does spend his money in canada. we own a house here, pay property tax on it, (for services like schools, police, and fire that we dont use), and he spends all of his holidays here, supporting the canadian economy very nicely.
and when he retires and returns to canada, all that money will return to canada, and be taxed appropriatly.
what many fail to realise is that canadians going abroad is good for the canadian economy and good for its citizens. Just like people from other nations coming to canada is good for its economy and citizens.
when abroad, our non-resident citizens need to have the same protection as a resident on holiday. |
erm to the best of my knowledge depending on how long your father has been working out of canada, if hte time is long enough between when he returns and when he was last a legal canadian resident, he will only pay tax on teh interest of the money he earned.
i know my grandfather returned to canada after 30 years of working away from teh country and he had quite the nest egg, enough to have three houses, 4 golf memberships per year and a new car every year plus alot of vacations. |
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| simms327 |
| quote: | Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~*
Never said you did.
Not in person...but was there any documentation when booking your trip or anything? I'm just asking...I've only been to the U.S. |
you apply for a visa through the nigerian embassy in ottawa, and you board your plane.
I am sure there are warnings available on a canadian gov't website, much like the State Department in the US does... but wether that comprises a fair warning, is a whole different argument.
i found it
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report...?country=218000 |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allegory
Lebanon has not been fighting for a very long time. You better back up your facts before making such ignorant comments.
Just because a country is in the middle east doesn't mean they are all terrorists, and that strife will always occur. |
no lebanon was quite a peacefulplace up until a couple weeks ago, but vertigo is right in saying that that part of the world is a an active show at all times. it is the most volatile place on the map right now..... |
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| simms327 |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
erm to the best of my knowledge depending on how long your father has been working out of canada, if hte time is long enough between when he returns and when he was last a legal canadian resident, he will only pay tax on teh interest of the money he earned.
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| quote: | Originally posted by simms327
and when he retires and returns to canada, all that money will return to canada, and be taxed appropriatly.
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