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| CraveTheRave |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
if Hasek's flopping around style never worked out, he would have out of the league in the mid 90s
end of story
It's one thing to debate if he is better than Roy which can go on forever (Roy > Hasek IMO). However, if you're trying to discredit his ability when the facts are CLEARLY contradicting you, you're really making yourself look like a ignorant dumbass ;) |
Never said his seizure-style didn't work, I'm saying he's a piece of . |
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| chi6me8ra |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
It's one thing to debate if he is better than Roy which can go on forever (Roy > Hasek IMO). |
roy was a better goalie and i dont think that debate could go on forever unless you are arguing with someone completely biased. hasek is a good at what he does but that doesn't mean people have to like him. that's just my $0.02 :gsmile: |
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| kush paintings |
While I think Roy was the superior goalie to Hasek, I think many of your statements that Hasek did not have a style is just flat out wrong. Hasek was actually a very solid goalie on first shots, and that in itself is a huge aspect of goaltending. Of course, after that it seemed to be a show. However, if you look at what he was doing, covering the bottom half of the net, you would take note of his genius. The vast majority of goals are scored on the ice. Hasek utilized his incredible instincts and flexibility in a philosophy of covering the ice first and foremost. Next, you will also see in many situations how although Hasek is sprawled out, a player will always seem to just drill the puck into a stray limb that is covering all of about 1/10th of the net. When sprawled, Hasek seemed to always get his limbs out to the puck, thus cutting down the angle. He displayed these two aspects with just as much consistency as did Roy with the butterfly slide and compact body positioning. They are two extremes of the answer to how best to goaltend. Unfortunately, hardly anyobody has the skill set of Hasek, while any person, no matter how lacking in athleticism (but, with proper poise) could immitate Roy's style. This is why you have seen Roy's style replicated and improved on, while Hasek's has been pushed away.
Anyways, I just launched a site for off-ice training (with workout plans and videos) with my trainer. I know there must be some players in here, so have a look: MyHockeyTrainer |
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| zoric |
| Jaromir Jagr just scored his 600th goal in the NHL, One of 16 players ever, Huge! ;) |
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| chi6me8ra |
| quote: | Originally posted by zoric
Jaromir Jagr just scored his 600th goal in the NHL, One of 16 players ever, Huge! ;) |
damn, i wish that wouldn't have happened for a couple more games so i could be at msg for that :( yes i realize that's selfish |
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| SolemnThirsty |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
While I think Roy was the superior goalie to Hasek, I think many of your statements that Hasek did not have a style is just flat out wrong. Hasek was actually a very solid goalie on first shots, and that in itself is a huge aspect of goaltending. Of course, after that it seemed to be a show. However, if you look at what he was doing, covering the bottom half of the net, you would take note of his genius. The vast majority of goals are scored on the ice. Hasek utilized his incredible instincts and flexibility in a philosophy of covering the ice first and foremost. Next, you will also see in many situations how although Hasek is sprawled out, a player will always seem to just drill the puck into a stray limb that is covering all of about 1/10th of the net. When sprawled, Hasek seemed to always get his limbs out to the puck, thus cutting down the angle. He displayed these two aspects with just as much consistency as did Roy with the butterfly slide and compact body positioning. They are two extremes of the answer to how best to goaltend. Unfortunately, hardly anyobody has the skill set of Hasek, while any person, no matter how lacking in athleticism (but, with proper poise) could immitate Roy's style. This is why you have seen Roy's style replicated and improved on, while Hasek's has been pushed away.
Anyways, I just launched a site for off-ice training (with workout plans and videos) with my trainer. I know there must be some players in here, so have a look: MyHockeyTrainer |
I'm not saying hasek is better than roy but look at what has hasek did during the nagano olympic against canada, during the game and the shootout with his unorthodox style using whatever parts of his body to try to stop the puck. I know you can't judge only on one preformance for greatest but you gotta give credit for that. |
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| malek |
| so the first quarter of the season is behind us, what are your predictions for the rest of the year? |
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| chi6me8ra |
the avalanche will barely make it into the playoffs along with the penguins. sabres will continue their eastern conference dominance and are the clear favorite to win the cup but that doesn't mean too much especially since we've got another couple months to go, injuries could be very disasterous for them. the ducks are my western favorites and i fully expect them to fair well in the playoffs no matter where they fall 1 to 8 in the west. that's all i've got for now.
EDIT: will be interning for the rangers so naturally i hope they get pretty far in the playoffs... |
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| SolemnThirsty |
| ^duck will be a totally a different team next year because this year they are built to win. any 16 teams that makes it to the playoff has a really good chance of winning, there no clear favorite in the post salary cap era. but go canucks go, they need to score some goals, more then half of their loses are by one goal only. |
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| King Ecnal |
Bruins have won 8 of their last 10 games.... is crazy....
still in last in their division... but crazy going down.... |
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| chi6me8ra |
| avalanche crushed edmonton tonight :happy2:...alleluia praise the lord jeeeesuuussss!!! |
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