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Your thoughts on Global Warming . . . (pg. 12)
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
A customer at work told me a huge chunk of ice broke off into the arctic sea yesterday cause of the warmer climate. Any1 hear anything like that.? |
Ayles ice shelf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayles_Ice_Shelf |
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| c1n1m1n |
| I live in Northern Canada and we've had plus temperatures in January. We should be at least -20 to -25. Winter has been mild here for the last three years. Gets warmer every year. |
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| jdat |
Tonight I saw a set of documentaries on territorial water ownership issues etc and there was something real interesting on the Northwest passage.
Now that's some freaky stuff right there:
The Northwest Passage is a sea route connecting the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans through the Arctic Archipelago of Canada.
This route could become frequently used if there was to be a severe melt down in the northern Nunavut region due to global warming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage
I'll add a bunch of stuff to that wikipedia article as it is fairly weak and there's plenty of errors in it.
History as we know it is truly being transformed. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Here's how the global temperatures have been for oh say the last 500 million years:
So, yeah, the globe is warming. It has been warming for more than a million years, and as you can see we've been due for it. It's colder now than the Earth is usually, and it's going to take a lot of warming to get up to the point that the Earth tends to naturally gravitate towards (22C).
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THANK YOU.
And does anyone remember when there was a WORLD WIDE "GLOBAL COOLING" scare in the 1970's???!
Hugh. What happened to that theory? It was fairly pervasive too.
This warming is all just a natural cycle that affects the earth over years, decades, centuries, millenia, etc. We simply have to accept it and deal with it.
(And, no, I am not advocating to stop trying to pollute less. We should do that as a general rule, treat our environment with care, I'm simply stating our polluting isn't the primary cause for the earth's natural warming tendency)
Here. Some reading on the matter. :)
The Impossibility of Prediction - http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/npc-speech.html
Fear, Complexity, Environmental Management in the 21st Century - http://www.michaelcrichton.com/spee...complexity.html
The media and governments ing blow this out of the water. Using the "scare" of global warming brought on by us, by our ways, to try to enact change. Nothing wrong w/ reducing our polluting ways, but they aren't what's causing this. It's just the tag line the media and governments use. |
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| ZeJayMan |
| Ah, It's of no consequence. |
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| miamitrance04 |
| global warming=political agenda for both democrats and republicans, its a bunch of BS stop talking about it already |
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| Ian |
| we should be around 0c in janurary, and are currently between 8 & 11. it's definitely unseasonal, some of the trees in the area are shooting their spring stuff already |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitrance04
global warming=political agenda for both democrats and republicans, its a bunch of BS stop talking about it already |
What would ANYONE have to gain from promoting this "agenda"? |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitrance04
global warming=political agenda for both democrats and republicans, its a bunch of BS stop talking about it already |
lol considering the republicans aren't pushing to enforce Kyoto protocol and the democrats are barely voicing anything on the matter it's hard to say it's a political agenda.
oh and wait please SHUT YOUR IN' MOUTH!
GLOBAL WARMING does not equal the United States. Get that out of your freaking head.
I already heard about the notion of global warming back in the mid 90s through various Greenpeace documentaries. Feel free to to giggle at the mention of their name but discussion concerning this matter is nothing new and it certainly isn't coming out because of the good nature of either of the political parties you named. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by miamitrance04
global warming=political agenda for both democrats and republicans, its a bunch of BS stop talking about it already |
as jdat said, this is just ignorant. To the point where I really had to point it out again.
world population: 6,525,170,264 (July 2006 est.)
usa population: 298,444,215 (July 2006 est.)
without doing exact mathematics, that's something like 6,227,000 vs america. Not even jack bauer could win those odds |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
What would ANYONE have to gain from promoting this "agenda"? |
what would anyone gain? the governments... they gain a GREAT slogan to promote the reduction of pollution and our non-friendly environmental ways.
its a good theme to help spur and get everyone strongly motivated to effect a change in our ways.
"do it, or we're all dead bc ur killing the world"
but, well, from what ive read, no the world is just changing on its own, its natural, from forces not primarily a result of our actions and pollution, and i guess it just sucks for us.. we want it to stay as it was.
though yes we should of course be much more environmentally conscious as general and great principal! its horrible the way we pollute, I agree. so bad... but its not causing this warming trend we've noticed.
(side not: the the sun is at a 1,000 year peak in temperature... hmm, i wonder if that would affect our earth's temperature and could be a very real cause of the increase...) |
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| _Nut_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
THANK YOU.
And does anyone remember when there was a WORLD WIDE "GLOBAL COOLING" scare in the 1970's???!
Hugh. What happened to that theory? It was fairly pervasive too.
This warming is all just a natural cycle that affects the earth over years, decades, centuries, millenia, etc. We simply have to accept it and deal with it.
(And, no, I am not advocating to stop trying to pollute less. We should do that as a general rule, treat our environment with care, I'm simply stating our polluting isn't the primary cause for the earth's natural warming tendency)
Here. Some reading on the matter. :)
The Impossibility of Prediction - http://www.michaelcrichton.com/speeches/npc-speech.html
Fear, Complexity, Environmental Management in the 21st Century - http://www.michaelcrichton.com/spee...complexity.html
The media and governments ing blow this out of the water. Using the "scare" of global warming brought on by us, by our ways, to try to enact change. Nothing wrong w/ reducing our polluting ways, but they aren't what's causing this. It's just the tag line the media and governments use. |
I am sorry.... but you take a little 'research' done by a science fiction writer and pass his 'research' as the truth? I really think that people who know nothing about the research that the scientific community has done, should really not speak at all on the topic. You are presenting a biased side to the subject. How much do you know about the research completed with ice cores? What about GCM's (if you don't even know what they are, please stop arguing)?
Even though I am not an Al Gore fan, what does it say that he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work that he has done and is doing with the educational awareness of global warming? |
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