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Your thoughts on Global Warming . . . (pg. 7)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Am I to assume then that you think climate change will necessarily lead to a decrease in biodiversity? That hardly seems a certainty. Natural climate shifts have occurred many times in the history of the planet and while they have resulted in extinctions they have also resulted in further speciation as various species adapt to new conditions. Overall biodiversity has, as far as we can tell, increased over time not only in spite of but in many cases because of changing conditions - climatic and otherwise. |
IF the climate changes were natural and normal within the cycle of the planet you would be right. but an artificial one generated by our own acts isnt the same thing. its certainly happening at a much faster rate (at least according to the report i saw the other night).
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
It's difficult to project how biodiversity will respond to climate change, but global warming seems to me to offer a net benefit - climatic regions which tend to give rise to the highest biodiversity (tropical regions) will expand, while those regions that tend to give rise to the least biodiversity (boreal and polar regions) will occupy a smaller section of the Earth's surface. I would speculate a short term decrease in biodiversity followed by a greater increase is the most probable outcome. Most (all) of the research I've read suggesting that biodiversity would be adversely affected by climate change focused only on the immediate impact, which is an inherently biased measure of the complete effects of climate change on biodiversity, so I don't find it credible personally. |
well, environmental science certainly isnt my strong suit :p thus i am forced to rely on the broad scientific community and what they tell me. but i cant see how an artificial & rapid increase in the world's temperatures is going to do anything but kill more and more species off. especially if you consider that if its all our fault and if it isnt natural, who's to say the warming will ever stop? theres reasons theres no life on mercury ;) i dont see this planet in having the ability to cope with the problems we're causing as its not an inherent part of a planet's life-cycle. |
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| chach |
| quote: | Originally posted by dallastar
glad to amuse you! carry on. . . . |
thanks! |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Am I to assume then that you think climate change will necessarily lead to a decrease in biodiversity? That hardly seems a certainty. Natural climate shifts have occurred many times in the history of the planet and while they have resulted in extinctions they have also resulted in further speciation as various species adapt to new conditions. Overall biodiversity has, as far as we can tell, increased over time not only in spite of but in many cases because of changing conditions - climatic and otherwise.
It's difficult to project how biodiversity will respond to climate change, but global warming seems to me to offer a net benefit - climatic regions which tend to give rise to the highest biodiversity (tropical regions) will expand, while those regions that tend to give rise to the least biodiversity (boreal and polar regions) will occupy a smaller section of the Earth's surface. I would speculate a short term decrease in biodiversity followed by a greater increase is the most probable outcome. Most (all) of the research I've read suggesting that biodiversity would be adversely affected by climate change focused only on the immediate impact, which is an inherently biased measure of the complete effects of climate change on biodiversity, so I don't find it credible personally. |
Thats a really flawed logic, if you talked to some people who actually are in the know, they would disagree.
We're talking about a climate change induced by human activity in a very short span. Yes the earth has experienced massive climate change before, but almost always on an evolutionary scale...the rate at which our current climate is changing is not something that the natural world will be able to evolve too, and the evidence is already there. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by dallastar
All I have to say is if we want to keep on living as we have up to now, we will have to change!
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That wouldn't really allow us to continue living the way we are, now would it? |
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| DjConfessions |
| more important things in this world. like terrorism and world of warcraft |
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| XoxidE |
i think global warming sucks.
we should of listened to Al Gore! |
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| Ang ' ela_ie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
I really don't believe things will get so bad that we will not be able to cope with them. |
This is assuming our ever-knowledgable Arbiter fully understands the dynamics of our climate system, which he obviously does not. No one has any idea how this is going to effect us. The only thing we know is that people WILL DIE because of our choices. Its just a matter of how many million. Billion. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
That wouldn't really allow us to continue living the way we are, now would it? |
Well its like this, do you want to get ed up the ass with a broom stick or a cactus? |
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| LiquidNitrogen |
| We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Well its like this, do you want to get ed up the ass with a broom stick or a cactus? |
I was just point out a huge flaw in her statement. It had nothing to do with my stance on global warming. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
I was just point out a huge flaw in her statement. It had nothing to do with my stance on global warming. |
I just wanted to use my comparison, had nothing much to do with what I thought of your excellent correction. Although it still makes sense. :p |
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