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The Politics of Restaurants (pg. 6)
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ed G
The level of service would decrease overall since no profit motive would be in place for the individual server. |
If you do your job badly you get fired, and there will be plenty more takers for a decently-paying job, who will be glad to do the job well. Food service here is as good as I have experienced anywhere else in the world.
| quote: | | Total cost of a meal would probably decrease slightly, proportionate to the drop in quality of service. |
Again I doubt service would drop that much. It depends on how you like to be served. You'd probably find less service staff blowing wind up your ass and trying to be your best buddy, which s me anyway. I just want my food served quickly and accurately and the waiter to promptly piss off. If I want wine recommendations or menu descriptions or a run-down of the specials I ask for them. |
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| Omega_M |
I hate to tip period
Not fair you get paid extra because you "serve" people directly.
It is your job. There is no need to demand that the customer pay more for your service.
If you don't tip, you don't get good service the next time. That is ransom. |
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| Ed G |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
its only hard because its hard to get people to come to your restaurant. marketing is a bitch in the restaurant business and most people dont want to risk trying something new. Its not a hard business because you hardly make enough profit off of food, They make tons of profit.
when you go to a nice fancy restauran and your served a piece of serving of everything and you pay 50 bucks a plate, where do u think that 40 buck profit goes? do you think it goes all to the dishwashers?:wtf:
and restauyrants are notorious for skimming profits, so your text book numbers are most likely false |
What makes restaurants difficult to manage is the fact that they are extremely labor intensive and complex. Few businesses take as much time and skill to run effectively.
It's true that restaurant owners don't report all of their income. The same is true of all cash businesses and is just a part of small business in general. If restaurants were so wildly profitable as you imply, many more people would open them and succeed.
In a typical restaurant approximately 50% of the gross goes directly to pay staff and buy food. The remaining money pays for insurance costs (many types), advertising, repairing and replacing equipment, debt reduction which includes interest payments, in-house promotions, and theft which can be as high as 10% of purchases. In a very well run restaurant the profit margin is about 10%. In a small, family run place profits will be higher, but the workload will also be more. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ed G
In a typical restaurant approximately 50% of the gross goes directly to pay staff and buy food. The remaining money pays for insurance costs (many types), advertising, repairing and replacing equipment, debt reduction which includes interest payments, in-house promotions, and theft which can be as high as 10% of purchases. In a very well run restaurant the profit margin is about 10%. In a small, family run place profits will be higher, but the workload will also be more. |
hardly unique costs in the business world. so why do we have to subsidise the profits of restaurant owners and not local grocery stores? |
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| Ed G |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
If you do your job badly you get fired, and there will be plenty more takers for a decently-paying job, who will be glad to do the job well. Food service here is as good as I have experienced anywhere else in the world.
Again I doubt service would drop that much. It depends on how you like to be served. You'd probably find less service staff blowing wind up your ass and trying to be your best buddy, which s me anyway. I just want my food served quickly and accurately and the waiter to promptly piss off. If I want wine recommendations or menu descriptions or a run-down of the specials I ask for them. |
I have a few concepts for restaurants that I believe are rock-solid business ideas. None of them include any type of waiter service. Managing a wait staff is the worst job I've ever had. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ed G
I have a few concepts for restaurants that I believe are rock-solid business ideas. None of them include any type of waiter service. Managing a wait staff is the worst job I've ever had. |
i say screw restauraunts all together, get out of the business unless ur into laundering money :D |
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| Ed G |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hardly unique costs in the business world. so why do we have to subsidise the profits of restaurant owners and not local grocery stores? |
I think we're getting hung up on the idea of subsidizing. Either way you'll have to pay roughly the same.
Let's say the wages for staff and profit for the owners comes to $200K per year for a restaurant where waiters are tipped. If we change them over to a non-tipping system the costs will stay the same. Previously the place took in $80K in tips. If we don't raise prices to generate that $80K the restaurant will not stay in business.
It's true in a way that the customers "subsidize" the labor costs, but this is true in any business. |
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| Ed G |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
i say screw restauraunts all together, get out of the business unless ur into laundering money :D |
I'm with you Vivid Boy. I got out. I'm working on some net-based concepts instead. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ed G
I have a few concepts for restaurants that I believe are rock-solid business ideas. None of them include any type of waiter service. Managing a wait staff is the worst job I've ever had. |
Sounds interesting.
There's a newish trendy vegetarian restaurant down here that is all self-service, like a buffet. I think the food there is mediocre and the place reminds me of a school cafeteria, but it seems to be quite successful - people seem to like it an are paying good money to eat there. (http://www.soulmama.com.au/) |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
There's a newish trendy vegetarian restaurant down here that is all self-service, like a buffet. I think the food there is mediocre and the place reminds me of a school cafeteria, but it seems to be quite successful - people seem to like it an are paying good money to eat there. (http://www.soulmama.com.au/) |
enough said ;) |
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| Ed G |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
enough said ;) |
(y)0! All this master d'bating has left me with the desire to view boobs. |
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| nchs09 |
ya ..... maybe ill get some hate for this.. but from what iv noticed
poeple who work in restaurants are the most ed up poeple i have ever met. not to mention not future-oriented...
also met a bunch of pricks, lame bitches who were not even hot *cant be a bitch if ur not gonna be hot*
etc,.... restaurants are sketch to work in.. i say quit and burn it. |
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