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all-nite-freak
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I disagree with the requirement to serve in the public sector prior to transfering to private medicine. By doing this you ensure that all the most skilled and seasoned practitioners will be unavailable to the public sector. If there is to be private medicine it must be done as additional hours to those spent in the public system.... overtime if you will. With regard to education, I would be in favour of makeing students sign an agreement to refund all monies used to subsidize their education should they leave Canada to practice elsewhere within 10 years of their graduation.


I can see some of your points are valid as well, but either way i think we agree that change is an absolutely necessary or else we are going to be in a heap of trouble during the years all the boomers are dying off.
Dr. Cfire
I think we should include a system where if you go to the hospital for something stupid you have to pay for their time.
Dr. Cfire
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Originally posted by Slylee
i hope you're you talking about canada and not USA:p

i pretty much had the same problem both times. lol


Socialized medicine would be the Canadian health care system:p
Slylee
oh ok:)
Slylee
btw Craig...I could sworn we had this debate a while ago on msn. I thought Canada had free healthcare or something? I forgot.
Slylee
oh ok nevermind i just did some research about "socialized medicine" :toothless i guess that explains 10 hour waits in the ER?
Omega_M
does anyone know how she is doing ?
Moral Hazard
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Cfire
I think we should include a system where if you go to the hospital for something stupid you have to pay for their time.


I've often thought this as well; there should be a user fee if you attend an emergency ward for any complaint that should be made through a general practitioner. There are two major problems with this though. One; there is a shortage of general practitioners in many areas, thus many people either do not have one or have to wait weeks to see one. Two; there is a huge legal liability exposure by doing this. If someone does not go to the hospital, because they do not want to risk the fee, and dies the Ministry of Health is going to be held responsible (because user fees are contrary to the Canada Health Act). This will open the provinces up to massive exposures. If we were to do this we would have to ammend the Canada Health Act to hold-harmless the Ministry of Health from such exposures... I'm not sure such a hold-harmless clause would be constitutional under the Charter's section 7 (right to security of the person).
emc^2
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Originally posted by Ghost Raver
When I got hit by a car the third time in my life


Hit by car 3rd? Did you say THIRD TIME? AS IN 1, 2, AND THEN 3? TIMES IN YOUR LIFE?

Dude, if I got hit by a car so many times I'd consider making following changes:

1. Shoot my guiding dog and get a new one, perhaps stressing the requirement that new guide dog should not be as blind as I.

2. Get a big glow-in-the-dark f*cker of a cane, and super-high-volume horn and super bright flashing light and attach it to the helmet on my head

3. Consider staying indoors

and finally

4. Wow to never sky-dive. Because as everyone knows - if at first you don't succeed, sky-diving is NOT for you.
Slylee
so canadians pay for "free health care" through taxes?

XaNaX
quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
so canadians pay for "free health care" through taxes?


yah, nothings free. What you end up doing with socialized medicine is paying for your neighbor's ER visit for a hang nail and the guy down the street who called the ambulance because his nose was running with your high taxes.
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Slylee
so canadians pay for "free health care" through taxes?


Indeed, our health care is paid for from out taxes. Essentially it's the same as an insurance plan except everyone pays acording to their means and everyone receives the same benefits. Add to this that the hospitals are all government owned and the employees (doctors included) are all employees of the Ministry of Health.... this carries the advantage of all the hospitals being "not for profit" thus reducing the cost of health care. One added bonus is the province becomes a huge purchaser of drugs and medical supplies, therefore they get massive volume discounts (buying power ftw), which further reduces the cost of health care.
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