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SOFTWARE vs. HARDWARE (Strength's & Weakness - Your opinion is welcome!) (pg. 16)
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
So in other words, it proves -all, because none of these things actually matter when you have multiple oscillators, LFOs, layers, and effects.
If it all depends on the girl (??) then you probably should just throw away all those synths and switch to a sampler, which is how most gangsta rap is made. |
Sadly but true. The hiphop artist sample music from other tracks and usually they buy a roland external sampler makes a hit track that goes double platinum, gets a deal. buys a ferrari next day. While we spend loads of money on hardware while our records don't go double platinum or anywhere.
Adiing oscillators to each other doesn't give you a better sound. Your adding on. A lot of things can go in here like phazing issues, and equalizing so they don't cancel each other out and go out of phaze |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
we'll i'm going to add both waveforms to logic and see how obnoxious the end result is. If you were offended by me saying a newb uses softsynth than thats you and how your reacted to the post. I mean i can use a softsynth too and make a super saw and cal my self a pro, anything is possible |
I already did an analysis in Wavosaur, which actually clearly favored the Andromeda version - even with the track normalized. The scale was level across the spectrum where my version had its most significant peak at the low end, was completely diminished beyond th...
Aw, nevermind. It's easier to show you.
Andromeda, clearly, wins this round.
FWIW, I'm not offended, even if you consider me a newb, or whatever. What I'm objecting to is the internecine quarreling over this issue. Again, my reaction to it but it really is silly.
I'm interested to hear the logic mix-up :D |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
why would i want links to audiophile dacs, are you trying to impress me? thats really lame. Your dj name sucks too. Wut are you gonna do run up a hill dj rann? Dan Lavry's on paper design on a digital to analogue converter is superior to the mytek. Now back to analogue vs software |
:( "I've got a better converter than anyone else and all your screen names suck and I luv tiesticle(s) more" :( Grow up.
And seriously, kettle - pot - black. "OrtofonCHILD"? :haha: Are you fucking kidding me? The name says it all. :haha:
Also, I'm not talking about "audiophile DAC's" - I'm talking about pro studio DAC's, but you'd know that if you'd ever set actually foot in one, right? Yes some studios do indeed use lavry, lynx, mytek but there are better/other ones you know...
And best of all you, of all people, own a lavry...Goddamn it, you must produce the highest fidelity turd tarnce has ever (sadly) witnessed.
One last thing, please learn to spell, it's an absolute pain reading you posts, but actually having said that don't worry about it, I've stopped.: |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
I already did an analysis in Wavosaur, which actually clearly favored the Andromeda version - even with the track normalized. The scale was level across the spectrum where my version had its most significant peak at the low end, was completely diminished beyond th...
Aw, nevermind. It's easier to show you.
Andromeda, clearly, wins this round.
FWIW, I'm not offended, even if you consider me a newb, or whatever. What I'm objecting to is the internecine quarreling over this issue. Again, my reaction to it but it really is silly.
I'm interested to hear the logic mix-up :D |
alright there you have it, i wanted to do it myself but oh well, i will anyway, I'm so glad that buying my hardware wasn't a waste and it means something to me now.
edit- lol the waveform goes negative on the softhsynth hahahah |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
Adiing oscillators to each other doesn't give you a better sound. Your adding on. A lot of things can go in here like phazing issues, and equalizing so they don't cancel each other out and go out of phaze |
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That made no sense. That made less than no sense, you've created some kind of anti-sense. |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
alright there you have it, i wanted to do it myself but oh well, i will anyway, I'm so glad that buying my hardware wasn't a waste and it means something to me now.
edit- lol he waveform goes negative on the softhsynth hahahah |
All my analysis says was that I wasn't using BuzMaxi to master and didn't have the ability to monitor the spectrum when I mastered - if you want to call that a master - my version. I'll attempt to put up a version, tomorrow, more attenuated to the sonic signature/characteristics of the Andromeda wave.
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
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That made no sense. That made less than no sense, you've created some kind of anti-sense. |
Sig worthy.
You're on a roll! |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
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That made no sense. That made less than no sense, you've created some kind of anti-sense. |
it does make sense diginut. What happens when you add to basses together in a track? very simaler when you add two oscillators? Like adding two kicks on each other (your adding on) |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by EddieZilker
All my analysis says was that I wasn't using BuzMaxi to master and didn't have the ability to monitor the spectrum when I mastered - if you want to call that a master - my version. I'll attempt to put up a version, tomorrow, more attenuated to the sonic signature/characteristics of the Andromeda wave.
Sig worthy.
You're on a roll! |
we're not using mastering of any sort |
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| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
we're not using mastering of any sort |
Not my point. BuzzMaxi, in addition to being a limiter, also provides real-time spectrum analysis. I should have clarified that and, no, I won't be using any mastering processes or plug-ins other than normalizing to 0dB. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| i'm not choosing either side, to each his own. But if someone gave me the chance for free to chose between and adromeda and rop papen allbino, i'll take the andromeda. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
it does make sense diginut. What happens when you add to basses together in a track? very simaler when you add two oscillators? Like adding two kicks on each other (your adding on) |
When you add two basses together, you get two basses. When you add two oscillators together, you get two oscillators.
Yes, you can adjust the phase on one so that it's exactly out of phase with another and therefore cancels it out, but WHY would you do this? The point is to adjust the shape and phase of each so as to fill out the fundamental range and add harmonics without creating such problems.
Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I'm almost getting the impression that you don't really know how to program a synth, and you're just comparing the default patches on popular soft synths to the patches on common hardware (in which case hardware definitely wins). |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
When you add two basses together, you get two basses. When you add two oscillators together, you get two oscillators.
Yes, you can adjust the phase on one so that it's exactly out of phase with another and therefore cancels it out, but WHY would you do this? The point is to adjust the shape and phase of each so as to fill out the fundamental range and add harmonics without creating such problems.
Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I'm almost getting the impression that you don't really know how to program a synth, and you're just comparing the default patches on popular soft synths to the patches on common hardware (in which case hardware definitely wins). |
if you want to do a multiple oscillator test, then we do that as well and see wich result is better.
i don't know how you look at things but as it seems you took things the wrong way and thought that i don't know how to program a synth. Like i said adding another oscillator isn't going to improve your sound. The fact is that its going to add on to it LOL.
edit- you also mentioned lfo, lfo mutilates the sound, It doesn't improve dynamics lol |
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