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SOFTWARE vs. HARDWARE (Strength's & Weakness - Your opinion is welcome!) (pg. 5)
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Its not just about the sound, but its the way of working too that makes them popular, you can just sit down with it and jam at any time.
And having a physical instrument like that can get you to be more creative than just clicking on the mouse. |
Yes, but there is no reason to believe that will appeal to the majority. Why would it? Software is cheaper. And if your creative, software is free. That fact will beat the warm fuzzy feeling of using hardware most of the time. Besides, its alot easyer to automate every single knob of a synth in software, than fiddling with mechanical sliders. Infact, I consider hardware to be adisadvantage when it comes to automation. |
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| Subtle |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Yes, but there is no reason to believe that will appeal to the majority. Why would it? Software is cheaper. And if your creative, software is free. That fact will beat the warm fuzzy feeling of using hardware most of the time. |
Maybe guitars die out too then ?
Or maybe we`ll never need a piano, since we can just load some awesome emulation.
Really, as long as people are playing keyboards, the hardware synth will never ever die. |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subtle
Maybe guitars die out too then ?
Or maybe we`ll never need a piano, since we can just load some awesome emulation.
Really, as long as people are playing keyboards, the hardware synth will never ever die. |
Except electronic music is a niche compared to generas that use those intruments. Those instruments still exist because they have a large enough market. And there is no cheap/free alternative. Virus has a cheaper alternative, has about 6 cheap alternatives.
Most stores i know don't even sell electronic music, its too small and niche. |
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| cryophonik |
OMG dude. I cannot even keep up with the flaws in your logic.
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Yes, but there is no reason to believe that will appeal to the majority.
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A product does not have to appeal to the majority to be profitable. And, as long as there are profits to be made (i.e., demand), there will be products on the market (i.e., supply). Business 101.
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Why would it? Software is cheaper. And if your creative, software is free.
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So, if a product is not cheap and easily stolen by adolescents, it will become obsolete? Are you retarded? As long as there are professional musicians (and there will be millions of them still around in 2020 and for the rest of humanity), there will be a large market for quality hardware instruments.
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Besides, its alot easyer to automate every single knob of a synth in software, than fiddling with mechanical sliders. Infact, I consider hardware to be adisadvantage when it comes to automation. |
So, a clueless FLS-using newbie who has probably never even touched a real synthesizer finds hardware to be more difficult to automate, so the entire hardware market is going to collapse within 11 years? That's your logic? Somebody better warn the executives at Roland, Korg, and Yamaha that their entire product line is about to change because some clueless nobody said so. :haha:
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Except electronic music is a niche compared to generas that use those intruments. Those instruments still exist because they have a large enough market. And there is no cheap/free alternative. Virus has a cheaper alternative, has about 6 cheap alternatives.
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WTF?!!! Do you realize that hardware synths have been used for decades by people who don't make electronica? Ever heard of rock and roll? How about pop music? Jazz? (yes, a LOT of jazz keyboardists play synths). How about the film industry? Latin music? The list of genres that use hardware synths goes on and on and on...Seriously, you need to open your mind and expand your understanding of the world around you, otherwise, you're just going to remain clueless and nobody is going to take you seriously.
Don't bother responding to this. I'm through with you, and your credibility is zero so I won't bother with it anyway. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by cronodevir
Most stores i know don't even sell electronic music, its too small and niche. |
:stongue:
The U.S. is quite different from much of the rest of the world in that respect. |
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| DigiNut |
So I've learned two things from this thread:
1. Software will never, ever sound anywhere near as good as hardware.
2. Hardware will be completely gone within 10 years.
I guess this means that the world hates quality. I always suspected as much. |
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| orTofønChiLd |
| lets just end it, Hardware will always be better than software period |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
never even touched a real synthesizer finds hardware to be more difficult to automate, |
I used to have a 303. I threw it away.
Some people get lost in their own world sometimes.
BoJingles:
Yes, The USA tends to be this way. Our local music store has one tiny shelf called "other" and it has a bunch of CDs with sunsets and other cheezy late 90's -to- Now fascades... Trance isn't what it used to be..long reptetive evolving arpeggios. Lol. /rem·i·nisce |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I guess this means that the world hates quality. I always suspected as much.[/COLOR][/FONT] |
People do listen to Jazz don't they? |
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| Darkarbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
:stongue:
The U.S. is quite different from much of the rest of the world in that respect. |
Regardless of whether they sell electronic music,
I think a bloody ton of the cds would have synths on them. Hell half of pop does nowdays let alone rap/rnb etc. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
OMG dude. I cannot even keep up with the flaws in your logic.
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hahahah so true
i know it's hard but at the end of the day you know you'll have to just let it go... people this silly only know 1 thing, and that's that they're always right... while the rest of the world KNOWS that they're always wrong :p
i'm going to get a virus in the next couple weeks: partly because of sound, but another reason that heavily influenced my decision was the fact that i enjoy and work better using physical objects...
even if it's a midi controller, i doubt there will ever be a majority of producers working solely with a keyboard and mouse |
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| cronodevir |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
hahahah so true
i know it's hard but at the end of the day you know you'll have to just let it go... people this silly only know 1 thing, and that's that they're always right... while the rest of the world KNOWS that they're always wrong :p
i'm going to get a virus in the next couple weeks: partly because of sound, but another reason that heavily influenced my decision was the fact that i enjoy and work better using physical objects...
even if it's a midi controller, i doubt there will ever be a majority of producers working solely with a keyboard and mouse |
The majority of electronic musicians in the world use mouse and keyboard alone...now.
Do you actually think most people use hardware? The vast vast vast majority of electronic music is amature. Trance is the most flooded gnera of music. On this site alone you have 10 new artists a week posting new tunes. Almost all of it was done in programs like FLStudio Reason or Cubase. Using nothing but software synths. This is why alot of people agree real trance died in the brink [1999ish] of the century. Because its around this time every noob and his brother was able to push tracks without needing a serious studio.
The industry is saturated, up to its neck with tons and tons of amature crap. For evero Pro musician there are atleast a thousand amatures. |
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