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Anti-Jew Movement (pg. 11)
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| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brian Scott
Keeping those memories fresh is what allows such a small minority of people remain strong and thrive among the hatred. It allows us to remind ourselves and each other about these past atrocities as much as it allows us to remind the rest of the world. Consider these tattoos as a motivator to not allow history to repeat itself. |
The rest of the world doesnt care and has moved on alredy. And relating to the thread title this might be a reason for the aleged anti jew moment. The world has had enough of listening to complaints for 50+ years. Everybody suffered during the war, but the jews are the only ones still milking it for all that its worth. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
so how are neo natzis different? they all hate the same right? anyone who isn't white anglosaxin. they hate jews and spanish people and black people...anyone dark skinned speaking a foreign languate, etc... |
First and foremost... the Nazis were a Pan-German nationalist fascist political party - most Neo-Nazis have no Pan-German nationalist element, are not political parties, and probably don't even understand what all is included in fascist ideology (like corporatist economics, social welfare, etc.... of note; fascism does not include even a hint of racism).
Secondly... Nazis had a well defined and structured racial heiarchy; Nordic race (Germanic races - Anglos, Saxons, Scandinavians...) - Aryan race (Indo-Aryan races - Indian, Greek, Latin, Iranian) - Untermensch/sub-human (Non-Aryan Europeans - Jews, Gypsies, Slavs) - non-human (non-Aryan and non-European... with the exception of the Japanese who were considered honorary Aryans). Neo-Nazis tend to hate anyone who is not white and has created their own definition of Aryan which seems to include only the Nordic Aryans to the exclusion of all others, which are hated with equal fervor.
Thirdly... Nazism was born out of strong philosophical and political traditions and thought... Neo-Nazism is born out of nothing more then a misunderstanding of history that seemingly fits well with pre-existing racial hatred. |
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| Slylee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
First and foremost... the Nazis were a Pan-German nationalist fascist political party - most Neo-Nazis have no Pan-German nationalist element, are not political parties, and probably don't even understand what all is included in fascist ideology (like corporatist economics, social welfare, etc.... of note; fascism does not include even a hint of racism).
Secondly... Nazis had a well defined and structured racial heiarchy; Nordic race (Germanic races - Anglos, Saxons, Scandinavians...) - Aryan race (Indo-Aryan races - Indian, Greek, Latin, Iranian) - Untermensch/sub-human (Non-Aryan Europeans - Jews, Gypsies, Slavs) - non-human (non-Aryan and non-European... with the exception of the Japanese who were considered honorary Aryans). Neo-Nazis tend to hate anyone who is not white and has created their own definition of Aryan which seems to include only the Nordic Aryans to the exclusion of all others, which are hated with equal fervor.
Thirdly... Nazism was born out of strong philosophical and political traditions and thought... Neo-Nazism is born out of nothing more then a misunderstanding of history that seemingly fits well with pre-existing racial hatred. |
oh ok. damn u know ur !
ok so...pop quiz.
where would edward norton's character from american history x stand in those groups? |
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| Brian Scott |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
The rest of the world doesnt care and has moved on alredy. And relating to the thread title this might be a reason for the aleged anti jew moment. The world has had enough of listening to complaints for 50+ years. Everybody suffered during the war, but the jews are the only ones still milking it for all that its worth. |
So how do you explain the other 2950 years of anti-semitism? |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
The rest of the world doesnt care and has moved on alredy. And relating to the thread title this might be a reason for the aleged anti jew moment. The world has had enough of listening to complaints for 50+ years. Everybody suffered during the war, but the jews are the only ones still milking it for all that its worth. |
You're a ing idiot. Over SEVENTY MILLION PEOPLE were ing marched to their death over their religion, heritage, and looks! You think that's something everyone should forget? Over TWO million in Auschwitz alone!
Go jump of a bridge. No one will even notice that. |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brian Scott
So how do you explain the other 2950 years of anti-semitism? |
zing |
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| gehzumteufel |
| Does anyone, aside from Moral, know what Nazi even means? Or how it came about? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
You're a ing idiot. Over SEVENTY MILLION PEOPLE were ing marched to their death over their religion, heritage, and looks! You think that's something everyone should forget? Over TWO million in Auschwitz alone!
Go jump of a bridge. No one will even notice that. |
Sara(h), check your numbers:
Jews - 5.9 million
Soviet POWs - 3 million
Poles - 1.8 million
Gypsies - 200,000 - 1.5 million (records are sketchy)
mentally disabled - 250,000
Homosexuals - 15,000
Jehovah's Witnesses - 5,000
**numbers are approximates** |
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| squirrelly |
Human Losses of World War Two by Country
Country Population 1939 Military deaths Civilian deaths Jewish Holocaust deaths Total deaths Deaths as % of 1939 population
Albania[1] 1,073,000 30,000 200 30,200 2.63%
Australia[2] 6,998,000 40,500 700 41,200 0.57%
Austria[3] 6,653,000 40,500 65,000 105,500 see table below
Belgium[4] 8,387,000 12,100 49,600 24,400 86,100 1.02%
Brazil[5] 40,289,000 1,000 1,000 2,000 0.00%
Bulgaria[6] 6,458,000 22,000 3,000 25,000 0.38%
Burma[7] 16,119,000 22,000 250,000 272,000 1.16%
Canada[8] 11,267,000 45,300 45,300 0.40%
China[9] 517,568,000 3,800,000 16,200,000 20,000,000 3.86%
Cuba[10] 4,235,000 100 100 0.00%
Czechoslovakia[11] 15,300,000 25,000 43,000 277,000 345,000 2.25%
Denmark[12] 3,795,000 2,100 1,000 100 3,200 0.08%
Dutch East Indies[13] 69,435,000 4,000,000 4,000,000 5.76%
Estonia[14] 1,134,000 50,000 1,000 51,000 4.50%
Ethiopia[15] 17,700,000 5,000 95,000 100,000 0.6%
Finland[16] 3,700,000 95,000 2,000 97,000 2.62%
France[17] 41,700,000 217,600 267,000 83,000 567,600 1.35%
French Indochina[18] 24,600,000 1,000,000 1,000,000 4.07%
Germany[19][20][21][22] 69,623,000 5,533,000 1,540,000 160,000 7,233,000 see table below
Greece[23] 7,222,000 20,000 220,000 71,300 311,300 4.31%
Hungary[24] 9,129,000 300,000 80,000 200,000 580,000 6.35%
Iceland[25] 119,000 200 200 0.17%
India[26] 378,000,000 87,000 1,500,000 1,587,000 0.42%
Iran[27] 14,340,000 200 200 0.00%
Iraq[28] 3,698,000 1,000 1,000 0.03%
Ireland[29] 2,960,000 200 200 0.00%
Italy[30] 44,394,000 301,400 145,100 8,000 454,500 1.02%
Japan[31] 71,380,000 2,120,000 580,000 2,700,000 3.78%
Korea[32] 23,400,000 378,000 378,000 1.6%
Latvia[33] 1,995,000 147,000 80,000 227,000 11.38%
Lithuania[34] 2,575,000 212,000 141,000 353,000 13.71%
Luxembourg[35] 295,000 1,300 700 2,000 0.68%
Malaya[36] 4,391,000 100,000 100,000 2.28%
Malta[37] 269,000 1,500 1,500 0.56%
Mexico[38] 19,320,000 100 100 0.00%
Micronesia[39] 1,900,000 57,000 57,000 3.00%
Mongolia[40] 819,000 300 300 0.04%
Netherlands[41] 8,729,000 21,000 176,000 104,000 301,000 3.44%
Newfoundland[42] 300,000 1,000 100 1,100 0.37%
New Zealand[43] 1,629,000 11,900 11,900 0.67%
Norway[44] 2,945,000 3,000 5,800 700 9,500 0.32%
Territory of Papua and Territory of New Guinea[45] 1,292,000 15,000 15,000 1.17%%
Philippines[46] 16,000,000 57,000 90,000 147,000 0.92%
Poland[47] 34,849,000 240,000 2,760,000 3,000,000 6,000,000 17.2%
Portuguese Timor[48] 500,000 55,000 55,000 11.00%
Romania[49] 19,934,000 300,000 64,000 469,000 833,000 4.22%
Singapore[50] 728,000 50,000 50,000 6.87%
South Africa[51] 10,160,000 11,900 11,900 0.12%
Soviet Union[52] 168,500,000 10,700,000 11,400,000 1,000,000 23,100,000 13.71%
Spain[53] 25,637,000 4,500 4,500 0.02%
Sweden[54] 6,341,000 200 2,000 2,200 0.03%
Switzerland[55] 4,210,000 100 100 0.00%
Thailand[56] 15,023,000 5,600 300 5,900 0.04%
United Kingdom[57] 47,760,000 382,700 67,100 449,800 0.94%
United States[58] 131,028,000 416,800 1,700 418,500 0.32%
Yugoslavia[59] 15,400,000 446,000 514,000 67,000 1,027,000 6.67%
Totals 1,963,205,000 25,282,100 42,168,400 5,752,400 73,169,900 3.71% |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
oh ok. damn u know ur !
ok so...pop quiz.
where would edward norton's character from american history x stand in those groups? |
Neo-Nazi... as evidenced by the fact that he exhibited absolutely no political agenda... and his rants on welfare (which an actual Nazi would argue is woefully insufficient in the US). Of course this is a characterization of his pre-prison days... after the whole anal rape thing he (understandably) had some second thoughts. |
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| squirrelly |
| Bottom right is the full number of deaths for all of the countries combined (73 mil) |
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| gehzumteufel |
| That is the WWII WAR losses, not the death camp losses. |
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