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The mobile phone thread
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Moongoose
Just thought it would keep all our geek talk about mobiles that is spread across several threads across time in here. Iphone bashing is not required but it is encouraged.

So let me start with a rant. Ever since the introduction of the ipad there have been romours about the new iphone. Even with no information at all available at this time, the consensus among apple zombies is that its going to be the best ing device in the entire history of the universe. Well if apple fans can get excited over unsubstantiuated romours then so can those of us who are lookijng for something more than a fashion addon in our mobile phone.

Saying that, we know that the HTC HD2 is a device that is worthy of selling your soul for. So its rumoured replacement is bound to be on a whole new level of awesome.

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For the daydreamers, here's an HTC HD3 rumor that we've just overheard. Warning, impossible specs ahead: a 4.5" touchscreen (1280 x 800 pixels), 115 x 65 x 10 mm (yeah, right), 1.5GHz Snapdragon with 1080p video decoding, 720p video capture via an 8MP camera. Oh, did we mention the 4G connectivity and the 1800mAh battery? Good luck fitting all that inside such a slim body.


Source

So the whole thing sounds areat, and it probably will be...just one exception.

Most will agree that what was holding HTC handsets back for a while now is the outdated OS they are running on, namely Win Mo 6 (.5). Still great devices but with several limitations that just dont belong in todays hi end mobile market. So i was among the many that expected winmo to fix the problems of old and build on the fundation to deliver the next best thing in mobile operating systems.
Then came the unveiling of Windows Phone 7 platform, and the mroe that i listened and read about it the less i liked it. Basically what microsoft has done here is look at the iphone and say to themselves "hey, why buil on our existing power user base, why not strip our os of anything that made it special like proper multitasking, or the open arhiteture just to name a few, put in some fancy new graphical UI that appeals to the easily amused and get rid of ALL BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY WHILE WE ARE AT IT. hey It worked for apple, no reasin why we cant get away with putting something useless on the market"
I guess that since Billy has bone away the men in charge have forgotten that we expect more of microsoft than we do of apple since they have enough bad reputation alredy, they have to work extra hard to appear to be even on a same level as something that is made for people that are distracted by anything shiny, polished and oh all so pretty.
Seriously who the came up with these bright ideas...no backwards compatibility for hundreds of thousands of existing applications out there? No multitasking? No custom UIs (yes, if you are like me, and loved HTCs Sense UI youre out of luck...youre stuck with Win7n default UI which i alredy hate, but ill come to that later) and this one i love the most...the only way to install new apps is via the new marketplace because if you want to amke apps for the new winmo phones...yeah you have to be a licenced developer. Well isnt that nice, imagine if the only way you could install new software on your dekstop pc would be wia some online app store...how long would people tolerate that before blowing up the MS HQ. As somewhat of a developer myself i have written many apps for various symbian and winmo devices for myself, my friends or for work which was the beauty of these platform...you coulčd code and install anything you wanted. For myself i found that the best ebook readers on any platform were the ones i developed myself, for others or for work there was always something tht needed to be done but no existing software managed to do it so well or so simple. But it was all right because the desired app was only a few hours of coding away, but now. Everything has to go over the marketplace, and not only that i have to pay an annual fee to be a developer, even if i only write apps for myself or my friends. you Microsoft. Seriously. you.
The next thing that got me pissed off is no custom UIs. I loved thje way that Sense UI was layed out (TouchWiz wasnt bad as well). All the information i could possibly want on a short notice was right there, at the main screen. Something more specific, just a few flicks of a finger away, and a nice list of installed software only a push of a button away. Simple, effective, intuitive. So of course that had to go and be replaced by a few "hubs" that will contain everything you have on your phone...because all softweare one wants to use can be easilly devided into only 6 categories...well when i say 6..one is reserved for the marketplace, one for media, one for people (which is everything from phonebook to ing twitter) and one for xbox live...because everybody uses ing xbox live. Where does my 3rd party navigation software go. I use that instead of google maps which somehow comes on most phones as standard for a reason. Because google maps is ing useless.

Congratulations microsoft..youre making another iphone...completely forgetting the fact that those people that want an iphone....have a ing iphone and that the people that bought windows mobile device did so because even with all its faults (and there were many) if you were looking for getting the very most out of your device it wa still a much better option than an iphone.

I will give Winmo 7 a chance, as i do with many new things mobile related. But with its usability severely limited, the doubt that any of my favourite apps will be rewritten to work on wm7 and the inability for myself to make my own software or modify it in any way...yeah, doesnt really sound like something that i would want to actually spend money on. Android is still open for the time being though...perhaps the time is come when the power user will migrate to that and leave the new wm7 devices back in the kids section with the iphone.

Such a shame...was so looking forward to the wm powered HD3... you microsoft
leph555
WINDOWS 7 phone, where ya at?!
bas
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Just thought it would keep all our geek talk about mobiles that is spread across several threads across time in here.

Why not just keep it in one of the other 8374013841057 threads that already exist? No. This, surely, will be THE thread.
D-res
I've a rooted & modded Moto Droid which keeps me relatively happy. It's got a rooted version of android 2.1 (rooted from the Nexus 1) so some features are buggy as there's no official 2.1 droid release yet (that I know of). So when I feel like being a loser I can adjust the processor min and max speeds, allowing me to overclock the 550mhz droid to potential maximum 1.2 ghz, although it's really not necessary. Super nintendo played almost perfectly smooth before I could adjust the cpu. Furthermore the relatively small battery gets just ing owned over 800mhz. :p
Lira
I can make phone calls on my phone, and sometimes I can even write text messages. It's awesome!
Omega_Blue
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Originally posted by D-res
I've a rooted & modded Moto Droid which keeps me relatively happy. It's got a rooted version of android 2.1 (rooted from the Nexus 1) so some features are buggy as there's no official 2.1 droid release yet (that I know of). So when I feel like being a loser I can adjust the processor min and max speeds, allowing me to overclock the 550mhz droid to potential maximum 1.2 ghz, although it's really not necessary. Super nintendo played almost perfectly smooth before I could adjust the cpu. Furthermore the relatively small battery gets just ing owned over 800mhz. :p


i have yet to root my moment. i tried and it failed repeatedly. there is, however, an official sprint update for it. i'm pretty sure it ups the OS to 2.0 and it supposedly fixes a bunch of battery life issues.
ali92
I want that N900. Maemo FTW!

PS: I currently have a BlackBerry 9700, Nokia N95-3, Sony Ericsson Z750a (debranded though), & one functional watch phone. Active SIMs: 4 US, 6 UK, 1 Belgium (Belgian?).
R!CH
does bashing the iphone make you alpha geek? that's what every geek seems to think...
Dj Minaya


All about the block cell phone.
Sushipunk
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Originally posted by ali92
I want that N900. Maemo FTW!


It does look cool.

I haven't done any research on it though - What are the major differences between it and the N97? (which I bough a couple of months ago, and love dearly)

The OS is different - Good or bad?

D-res
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Originally posted by R!CH
does bashing the iphone make you alpha geek? that's what every geek seems to think...


That may be true but bashing on apple products in general just seems like the right thing to do
Fledz
I got the N97, and they released the N900 right after.
Get an iPhone 3GS and they release a new one after.
Get an HD2 and they will release an HD3.

You're always going to be ed because there's always something better.
At least we can be happy that all of the smartphones are actually pretty damn good. None of them are because they all do quite a load of things, but nobody is ever happy because there's something better out there.
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