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Feminism (pg. 4)
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The17sss
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Come now, its kismet!


haha... I have virtually no kismet experience on here. not sure what his/her views are.



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So what though? Surely that is their choice? Other than biological determinism (which was central to the original division of labour), why must the nuclear family hinge around the female, in the context of careers?


True true. I didn't mean to come off as though I were saying the nuclear family hinges on the female.... just that in today's society, there seems to be more women who don't give a about family as opposed to career. Goddamn "Sex and the City" types. :p
The17sss
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Originally posted by Lilith
Cite some examples or keep walking.


you are obviously a prime example.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by The17sss
haha... I have virtually no kismet experience on here. not sure what his/her views are.


911, chemtrails, vaccines, fluoride. You get the idea! ;)

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Originally posted by The17sss
True true. I didn't mean to come off as though I were saying the nuclear family hinges on the female.... just that in today's society, there seems to be more women who don't give a about family as opposed to career. Goddamn "Sex and the City" types. :p


I think its great. I long to leech off a rich chick who doesn’t want kids :p
The17sss
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
911, chemtrails, vaccines, fluoride. You get the idea! ;)



I think its great. I long to leech off a rich chick who doesn’t want kids :p


HAHA! you know how to grow on a n*gga, PKC
Lilith
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Originally posted by The17sss
you are obviously a prime example.

Of what?
Someone that can manage to do the majority of housework, run my own business. Or should we be resentful perhaps that I do it well?

No really, pony up some examples instead of personal attacks and perhaps you'll gain back a shred of credibility... that would indeed be a novelty.
pkcRAISTLIN
This thread could really use a pic of lilith’s cans.
Lews
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Originally posted by The17sss
Why the hostility to that comment? Women have become so "career" oriented that many have lost their femininity, trying to out-do men or basically become them, psychologically speaking. An argument can be made that this has affected the nuclear family. I'm all for empowerment, but some women lose their identity as "a woman" when they push too hard.



You say they lose their identity as a woman. What is "a woman?"

I also wasn't aware that all women were supposed to be the same thing. I thought you were super hardcore conservative? Free market and all that? I thought we lived in a free world and people could do whatever they wanted to do. Or is that only men?

Come on man.


Hey Kismet, see any cool chemtrails lately?
The17sss
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Originally posted by Lilith
Of what?
Someone that can manage to do the majority of housework, run my own business. Or should we be resentful perhaps that I do it well?

No really, pony up some examples instead of personal attacks and perhaps you'll gain back a shred of credibility... that would indeed be a novelty.


Personal attacks eh? Your "or keep walking" tough talk, suggesting that you were offended, actually kicked off the personal attack, because I wasn't directing towards you. You attempted to discredit my statement as being completely bogus because A) you don't agree or like that I said it, or B) I didn't cite a specific example for you. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. But your sharp rebuttal helped provide you as the perfect example.

I mean, just look at you. Always trying to sound like a hard ass with that bossy tone, telling tales of your monumentous business and financial achievements, playing yourself as a virtuous "know it all" who is smarter than anyone (especially a caveman male like me) who dares to challenge you. Enough already, it's old as . Cool, you made millions in Africa. You're a world beater who can close a business deal while giving birth and vacuuming at the same time. I'm really impressed.

EDIT: I just noticed this--> "Or should we be resentful perhaps that I do it well?" Wow, talk about condescension. I'd be "jealous" of you if I wasn't already 8 years deep into running a successful business ;)
The17sss
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Originally posted by Lews
You say they lose their identity as a woman. What is "a woman?"

I also wasn't aware that all women were supposed to be the same thing. I thought you were super hardcore conservative? Free market and all that? I thought we lived in a free world and people could do whatever they wanted to do. Or is that only men?

Come on man.


lol... huh? I can't specifically "define" a woman, but without getting into a sociological discussion, you know femininity when you see it. And who's saying all women are supposed to be the same? I was just referring to the ones who try too hard to be like men- not achieve the same as men- and lose that nurturing quality in the process. You know the type. Dude you are misunderstanding my comments incredibly bad tonight.
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by The17sss
HAHA! you know how to grow on a n*gga, PKC


How can a conservative like yourself refer to himself a "n*gga"?


Ian
People still argue with that muppet Kermit? Has nobody learned a thing?
Lilith
I wasn't offended.
Just want to see what you had that was an actual example, you know those factual things people use in an argument instead of your own 'vaunted opinions and observations'. But on second thoughts, just keep going Kev and see how much rope it takes to hang yourself with in any kind of serious argument without resorting to sledging.

Yeah, my opinions advice are more or less unwanted, hence I don't give them any more. I didn't actually make anything of Africa, I lost a lot including some members of my family.
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