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the Wikileaks/ Cablegate scandal (pg. 17)
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
I is immigrant and I speak engrish. I need to make my posts more clearer.
Wikileaks may not be criminally guilty of breaking the law, I think they are guilty of breaking the spirit of the law. Certainly something to do with dealing in stolen property, if that makes any sense.
Some dude hacked into your computer and stole your banking info, and he gave it to some guy. That guy decided to tell a bunch of people your banking info. Clearly That guy is doing some sort of wrong, no?
I agree that there is a difference. But what is censorship, but a bunch of people deciding what should be allowed and not. For me, I don't have problem with hate speech, because I know better than to buy into that stuff, and at least I also know who the idiots are. (and if you are persuaded by hate speech, then clearly you need to be removed from the gene pool)
Censorship is just a difference in opinion.
Eh. Depends on how much you buy into rhetoric the politicians spew and compare it to realpolitik that is practiced in global politics scene.
Bunch of 'hackers' retaliating with attacks on sites of major credit companies under guise of helping out wikileaks is illegal, no? And people think govts going after wikileaks is some sort of illegal too.
So some people think it's ok to correct or commit retribution against an illegal act by committing illegal acts of their own. |
I get what you're saying but at the same time it's my fault for saving that kind of info on my computer and not backing it up and being put in that situation to begin with.
Also you're talking the far extreme in terms of the kind of information released. Some of the wikileaks cables deserve to be out there and shows how the US Gov't should be more transparent but isn't.
Other cables are for security sake and I understand how they are upset over it...it's tough to find a middle ground. Especially once pandora's box is opened. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
Wikileaks may not be criminally guilty of breaking the law, I think they are guilty of breaking the spirit of the law. |
Spirit of law? What?
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Some dude hacked into your computer and stole your banking info, and he gave it to some guy. That guy decided to tell a bunch of people your banking info. Clearly That guy is doing some sort of wrong, no?
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You're comparing apples to oranges, bud. You are talking about identity theft example there - yes, the guy could be prosecuted. However, Wikileaks cannot. So therefore, there is serious sensorship by corporate group and Western governments here (run by corporate group - so pretty much the same damn thing), Wikileaks is a whistle-blower website after all. They are not posting bank records data, but government secrets and lies from concerned citizens.
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Eh. Depends on how much you buy into rhetoric the politicians spew and compare it to realpolitik that is practiced in global politics scene.
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Hypocrisy and double standards, yes. America talks about human rights and democracy while being close allies with some of the worst regimes out there, i.e. Saudi Arabia.
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Bunch of 'hackers' retaliating with attacks on sites of major credit companies under guise of helping out wikileaks is illegal, no? And people think govts going after wikileaks is some sort of illegal too.
So some people think it's ok to correct or commit retribution against an illegal act by committing illegal acts of their own. |
Ok, hold on there. Governments (presumably of USA) have launched a massive DDOS war against Wikileaks. Isnt that illegal? Secondly, the retaliatory attack by 4Chan and its supporters is very miniscule when compared to the attack on Wikileaks (10 gigabit to 40 gigabit). Which makes you wonder - how does American government have so much resources? American government / Pentagon probably has its own world-wide army of botnets. Or maybe they already install botnets into computers (with the help of American corporate anti-virus companies) to help attack when needed? Doesnt it make you wonder? Is it legal? Is it right? Do they give a ?
Face it - America and its allies are supposed to be the good guys and following the law, etc. etc. What they have done to Wikileaks, and the way they responded to the whole mess - its much more disgusting and hypocritical than Wikileaks or its supporters, times 100000. Just think about it. They say one thing but do another.
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
with both of those nations, it's always been the pot calling the kettle black. But I'm glad to see Russia firing back. |
that's true :) |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
lol, what is happening is not hacking. None of the sites are actually being hacked ffs. Media people are goddamn morons.. |
Of course, duh, DDOS attacks are not hacking. I mentioned in previous posts, DDOS attacks [having many people's internet connection directed at a specific (target) website to overwhelm its broadband]
I was just referring to a good song I was listening to ("Hack The Planet") in spirit of the moment, somebody mentioned word hacking like several times :) Made me think of the movie Hacker.
Oh, but there was some hacking done, by the way ...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog...es-live-updates
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Not long afterwards Twitter suspended the "Anon_Operation" account immediately after it tweeted a link apparently to hacked MasterCard numbers which were being posted to the code site Pastebin.com. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Clicky |
I'll take one. |
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| jester |
Now I see why Nigeria keeps scamming people. They learnt from major corporations lol |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Now I see why Nigeria keeps scamming people. They learnt from major corporations lol |
LOL. |
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| jon jon |
I wonder how significant this hyped up UFO/Aliens leak is going to be...
probably all, but IMAGINE! lol |
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| FunkyCrew |
| ok the alien one will be exciting! |
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