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the Wikileaks/ Cablegate scandal (pg. 8)
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| The Potter |
A newspaper in India called it right when they referred to 'digital McCarthyism'.
The over-reaction of western governments is actually undermining the spread of freedom and democracy, and will help oppressive regimes to reinforce their grip on power. When Obama was in China, he said that the more freely information flows, the stronger society becomes. Hillary Clinton was also strongly critical of internet restrictions in China.
The Chinese can now use this apalling American example to further justify the imprisonment of thousands of dissidents/journalists on the basis that they committed 'illegal' acts. Unless you are also willing to call these Chinese activists criminals/terrorists, the likes of Julian Assange are nothing but dissidents. It is important to remember that Wikileaks are only publishing information that someone else stole, just like all the other newspaper organisations are currently doing, but without the same level of government harassment. Surely, the press' First Amendment right should also apply to Wikileaks. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
I don't understand how having Assange in custody will do anything lol He's said himself that nothing is stopping the leaks, they've already been uploaded in full to many mirror sites... |
yeah, him in custody does nothing. he is only the founder. like we said before, the documents are already uploaded to wikileaks and there are many people that have access to releasing them. i want them to release the cables actually discussing the wikileaks. that would be meta. |
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| VDub |
| Obama's mothers name is Stanley??? |
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| jester |
| Business as usual at Wikileaks. More docs to be released this evening. |
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| Sly_Guy |
| jesus, I need to find a break in my exams so I can catch up on this stuff. I just downloaded the "insurance.aes256" file in case this guy goes down. |
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| tobywan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
I just downloaded the "insurance.aes256" file in case this guy goes down. |
Was listening to an interview with Assange's lawyer on radio 1's *the current* yesterday morning, and he said that there are several thousand people Assange has trusted with the key should he ever be taken down.
Currently in police custody in London, fighting extradition to Sweden on
*charges of rape*. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by tobywan
Was listening to an interview with Assange's lawyer on radio 1's *the current* yesterday morning, and he said that there are several thousand people Assange has trusted with the key should he ever be taken down.
Currently in police custody in London, fighting extradition to Sweden on
*charges of rape*. |
If he boards a plane to Sweden, he wouldn't even make it there. Its straight to Guitmo or some other place.
I can't wait for the US to ask The Hague to charge him for "distributing an STD" lol Seeing they got Interpol to get a warrant out for him "for not using a condom". |
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| jester |
| quote: | | The WikiLeaks brouhaha will pass. Diplomats will once again be indiscreet at cocktail parties and rat out one another in the same way some people marry repeatedly, each time forever. The only thing worse than indiscretion is efforts to punish the miscreants by eroding the core constitutional right to publish all but the most obvious and blatant national security secrets. The government has to get better at keeping secrets. Muzzle the leakers - but not the press. |
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| geroin |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...are-ahmadinejad
WikiLeaks claims are 'psychological warfare' says Ahmadinejad
Iranian president claims that the leaks are part of a campaign of psychological warfare against his country
Iran today lashed out at the WikiLeaks revelations, with the president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, dismissing the controversial leaks as a "worthless" psychological warfare campaign against his country. But Israel said it felt vindicated by the public exposure of Arab and international concern over Iran's nuclear programme.
"We don't think this information was leaked," the Iranian president insisted during a televised press conference in Tehran. "We think it was organised to be released on a regular basis and they are pursuing political goals."
Ahmadinejad told reporters that documents highlighting Arab hostility to Iran and its alleged nuclear ambitions would have no impact. "We are friends with the regional countries and mischievous acts will not affect relations," he said.
Iranian media commented that the US does not trust its "agents" inside the Islamic republic and claimed there were US links to the mass protests and unrest that followed last year's disputed presidential election.
Press TV, the English-language Iranian TV channel, also highlighted evidence from the state department cables that US diplomats are apparently engaged in espionage – a charge that will hold special resonance in a country where the long-empty US embassy is still routinely referred to as "the nest of spies".
Arab governments maintained a discreet silence but Arabic-language media highlighted Guardian reports that Saudi Arabia and Bahrain in particular had advocated military action against Iran to stop its nuclear programme. "The Arabs agitated against Iran," the Qatar-based al-Jazeera TV headlined its main story. Its rival, the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya, initially made no reference to King Abdullah's call to attack Iran "to cut off the head of the snake" or to similarly hawkish comments by King Hamad of Bahrain, but later changed its story to include these.
The Saudi paper Okaz zoomed in on warnings by the British government that the massive leak could endanger lives. Other Arab media headlined stories focusing on Israel's ability to attack Iran as well as Tehran's acquisition of long-range missiles. The Saudi Gazette reported the WikiLeaks story but without mentioning the kingdom. In Abu Dhabi, capital of the UAE, where the crown prince, Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, was reported by US officials as having made bellicose remarks about Iran, the English-language paper The National did not report a local link to the WikiLeaks story.
In Israel, the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, claimed vindication for the view that Iran constitutes the biggest regional threat and that its development of a nuclear capacity must be halted.
Despite anxiety in the runup to publication that the US embassy cables could cast Israel in a negative light, he said: "Israel has not been damaged at all by the WikiLeaks publications. On the contrary, the documents showed support in many quarters for Israel's assessments, especially on Iran.
"Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat," Netanyahu added. "In reality leaders understand that that view is bankrupt. For the first time in history there is agreement that Iran is the threat."
Many leaders and governments in the Middle East understood the threat, he said, though the documents revealed "a gap between what is said publicly and what is said behind closed doors".
Several Israeli commentators suggested that US attempts to get the stalled Israeli-Palestinian talks back on track will be put on hold while the administration concentrates on a damage-limitation exercise.
Iranian media failed to widely report mention of a 2009 diplomatic cable reporting that supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has terminal cancer.
But one website, alef.ir, which is a website affiliated to the Revolutionary Guards, focused on suggestions of US links with Iranians protesting at the outcome of the 2009 presidential election. "The interesting parts of this document are those which show that the rioters in the aftermath of the election are linked to the American diplomatic service and they have been consulted by them," it said.
interesting.. |
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| jester |
| quote: | Originally posted by geroin
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...are-ahmadinejad
WikiLeaks claims are 'psychological warfare' says Ahmadinejad
Iranian president claims that the leaks are part of a campaign of psychological warfare against his country
Iran today lashed out at the WikiLeaks revelations, with the president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, dismissing the controversial leaks as a "worthless" psychological warfare campaign against his country. But Israel said it felt vindicated by the public exposure of Arab and international concern over Iran's nuclear programme.
"We don't think this information was leaked," the Iranian president insisted during a televised press conference in Tehran. "We think it was organised to be released on a regular basis and they are pursuing political goals."
Ahmadinejad told reporters that documents highlighting Arab hostility to Iran and its alleged nuclear ambitions would have no impact. "We are friends with the regional countries and mischievous acts will not affect relations," he said.
Iranian media commented that the US does not trust its "agents" inside the Islamic republic and claimed there were US links to the mass protests and unrest that followed last year's disputed presidential election.
Press TV, the English-language Iranian TV channel, also highlighted evidence from the state department cables that US diplomats are apparently engaged in espionage – a charge that will hold special resonance in a country where the long-empty US embassy is still routinely referred to as "the nest of spies".
Arab governments maintained a discreet silence but Arabic-language media highlighted Guardian reports that Saudi Arabia and Bahrain in particular had advocated military action against Iran to stop its nuclear programme. "The Arabs agitated against Iran," the Qatar-based al-Jazeera TV headlined its main story. Its rival, the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya, initially made no reference to King Abdullah's call to attack Iran "to cut off the head of the snake" or to similarly hawkish comments by King Hamad of Bahrain, but later changed its story to include these.
The Saudi paper Okaz zoomed in on warnings by the British government that the massive leak could endanger lives. Other Arab media headlined stories focusing on Israel's ability to attack Iran as well as Tehran's acquisition of long-range missiles. The Saudi Gazette reported the WikiLeaks story but without mentioning the kingdom. In Abu Dhabi, capital of the UAE, where the crown prince, Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan, was reported by US officials as having made bellicose remarks about Iran, the English-language paper The National did not report a local link to the WikiLeaks story.
In Israel, the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, claimed vindication for the view that Iran constitutes the biggest regional threat and that its development of a nuclear capacity must be halted.
Despite anxiety in the runup to publication that the US embassy cables could cast Israel in a negative light, he said: "Israel has not been damaged at all by the WikiLeaks publications. On the contrary, the documents showed support in many quarters for Israel's assessments, especially on Iran.
"Our region has been hostage to a narrative that is the result of 60 years of propaganda, which paints Israel as the greatest threat," Netanyahu added. "In reality leaders understand that that view is bankrupt. For the first time in history there is agreement that Iran is the threat."
Many leaders and governments in the Middle East understood the threat, he said, though the documents revealed "a gap between what is said publicly and what is said behind closed doors".
Several Israeli commentators suggested that US attempts to get the stalled Israeli-Palestinian talks back on track will be put on hold while the administration concentrates on a damage-limitation exercise.
Iranian media failed to widely report mention of a 2009 diplomatic cable reporting that supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has terminal cancer.
But one website, alef.ir, which is a website affiliated to the Revolutionary Guards, focused on suggestions of US links with Iranians protesting at the outcome of the 2009 presidential election. "The interesting parts of this document are those which show that the rioters in the aftermath of the election are linked to the American diplomatic service and they have been consulted by them," it said.
interesting.. |
So lets get this straight... he pretty much thinks Israel behind all these leaks blah blah blah. This guy needs to sing a new tune. |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by tobywan
Was listening to an interview with Assange's lawyer on radio 1's *the current* yesterday morning, and he said that there are several thousand people Assange has trusted with the key should he ever be taken down.
Currently in police custody in London, fighting extradition to Sweden on
*charges of rape*. |
funny thing is, I'm studying the AES algorithm for an exam tomorrow. Sufficed to say, it'd take my computer around 3 million years to break his encryption. |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by jester
So lets get this straight... he pretty much thinks Israel behind all these leaks blah blah blah. This guy needs to sing a new tune. |
Israel is behind eveything in the middle east, doncha know? They were even blamed for releasing the sharks that attacked tourists in Egypt. :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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